Angel: Yeah, I never told anyone about this, but I-I liked your poems. Spike: You like Barry Manilow.

'Hell Bound'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Theodosia - Mar 31, 2008 2:29:32 am PDT #1352 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Um, what is this Star Trek thing that's been mentioned? Some kind of fan project or a documentary or what?


Kevin - Mar 31, 2008 4:12:15 am PDT #1353 of 30001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

It's a Star Trek web movie series thing directed by one of the Voyager actors and written by two of the Deep Space Nine writers, starring a bunch of actors who used to be in Trek but now do conventions. Unauthorised. It's a bit rubbish, but, well, proves that fan films can be shot and released I suppose.

I've no idea how they got Alan Ruck to do it.


lisah - Mar 31, 2008 5:25:36 am PDT #1354 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

That Carnival episode of Torchwood made less sense than the show usually does! They were made of light? What?


Dana - Mar 31, 2008 5:32:50 am PDT #1355 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah. Or film. Or something. Not really the most sensical episode they've done.


hippocampus - Mar 31, 2008 5:43:49 am PDT #1356 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

Yeah. Or film. Or something. Not really the most sensical episode they've done.

it didn't seem that they were the usual things that Torchwood chases down, either. Much more X-files off-arc than what I'd been getting used to.

why did I think that was the season finale? was it in Britain?


amych - Mar 31, 2008 5:46:50 am PDT #1357 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

UK Season finale is this Friday. *sob!*


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2008 5:47:41 am PDT #1358 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it was one dose of the applicable "Video killed the radio star"--moving pictures were their downfall, including the ability to record them on film.

The other side to that is that theis same recording preserves them--but only as long as the tape survives, and playing said tape can release them again.

It almost worked for me, but I just don't think of that sort of moving picture film much these days.


victor infante - Mar 31, 2008 5:59:38 am PDT #1359 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It almost worked for me, but I just don't think of that sort of moving picture film much these days.

Which, I think, was one of the points -- the medium that destroyed the Night Travelers or whatever they were called is itself in danger of destruction, which means that they'd be lost forever.

Buit yeah. Almost worked does it for me. In fact, it would have worked fine for me if it was on "Buffy," which allows magical logic more easily than the pseudoscientifc "Torchwood." Even when it's delving into mythology, such as with the faeries in "Small Worlds," there's always a "well, they're interdimensional beings that don't exist linearly in time and space." That's "Doctor Who" logic, and I can buy into it.

But there was an implied supernatural element here that through me a little. Although, for the most part, I enjoyed it just fine. Ianto's delight in the old movie house, particularly, was a lot of fun.

And this is evidently the season of dredging up Jack's past -- his Time Agency frenemy (to use a Stephen Colbert word); his brother, a marriage in his past ... now, a time spent as a carnie! Even Martha Jones, at least from the POV of the other Torchwood members, was a piece of Jack's past that they had not been privy to.


victor infante - Mar 31, 2008 5:59:46 am PDT #1360 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It almost worked for me, but I just don't think of that sort of moving picture film much these days.

Which, I think, was one of the points -- the medium that destroyed the Night Travelers or whatever they were called is itself in danger of destruction, which means that they'd be lost forever.

But yeah. Almost worked does it for me. In fact, it would have worked fine for me if it was on "Buffy," which allows magical logic more easily than the pseudoscientifc "Torchwood." Even when it's delving into mythology, such as with the faeries in "Small Worlds," there's always a "well, they're interdimensional beings that don't exist linearly in time and space." That's "Doctor Who" logic, and I can buy into it.

But there was an implied supernatural element here that threw me a little. Although, for the most part, I enjoyed it just fine. Ianto's delight in the old movie house, particularly, was a lot of fun.

And this is evidently the season of dredging up Jack's past -- his Time Agency frenemy (to use a Stephen Colbert word); his brother, a marriage in his past ... now, a time spent as a carnie! Even Martha Jones, at least from the POV of the other Torchwood members, was a piece of Jack's past that they had not been privy to.


Dana - Mar 31, 2008 6:00:44 am PDT #1361 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I was just sad that it wasn't creepier. Carnival freaks chasing after you should totally have been creepier.