I get confused. I remember everything. I remember too much, and... some of it's made up, and... some of it can't be quantified, and... there's secrets.

River ,'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 06, 2010 8:16:34 am PDT #13199 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

It was pretty explicitly stated that while the phlebotenum creatures stuck in the Tardis caused the shared dreaming, it was the Doctor who was the Dream Master.

Someone upthread mentioned the Valeyard. I've not actually seen those episodes (I need to find them), so I can't really comment - but were we meant to think there was a link? Is this a theme they're laying down to come back to in later seasons, maybe?


sj - Jun 06, 2010 8:37:24 am PDT #13200 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

"Nobody in the Universe hates me as much as you do."

When he said this I thought he was talking about the Master, but later when he stated it was his own dark side, I thought it was very telling.


beekaytee - Jun 06, 2010 9:58:03 am PDT #13201 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

It must be the psychologist in me, but I knew instantly who he was talking about and it sent a chill up my spine. There sure ain't no loathing like self loathing.


Laga - Jun 06, 2010 10:19:51 am PDT #13202 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

At the end, when The Doctor caught his reflecion in a shiny part of the TARDIS, for a moment he saw the dream master.

I was afraid at first that he would turn out to be The Master, but then he teleported in a way I was prety sure Time Lords can't.


Vortex - Jun 06, 2010 11:18:08 am PDT #13203 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

When he said "I know who you are", I immediately thought The Master!!!


Typo Boy - Jun 06, 2010 11:27:48 am PDT #13204 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I caught that it was some aspect of the Doctor right away too. But I do wonder if they are planning to go to a Valeyard place someday too. But do the show runners even think that long term in planning their plots?


Laga - Jun 06, 2010 11:56:03 am PDT #13205 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I had to look up Valeyard as I stopped watching midway through Doctor #5.


tommyrot - Jun 06, 2010 3:03:20 pm PDT #13206 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Have just watched the US Doctor Who and I gotta say I have that exact bicycle Rory rides at the beginning of the episode. It's a Dutch bike by Batavus. Mine is flat black instead of gloss black and mine lacks the wicker basket on the front; otherwise it's the same.


Laga - Jun 06, 2010 3:14:35 pm PDT #13207 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Hey cool! I used to have the exact same bike as Kermit the Frog.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 06, 2010 6:20:28 pm PDT #13208 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm beginning to think that Eleven is the most truly ALIEN of the Doctors since, I'd say, Tom Baker (granted I didn't see enough of Six and Seven to judge them).

Nine and Ten, in their ways, both seemed to embrace humanity, even if it wasn't their species. Eleven just doesn't seem to have the time to slow down that way, though he still adores the species.