Can you tell when you're dreaming? All I have to do is try to dial a phone.
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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UK Doctor Who: I thought that was WONDERFUL. Possibly my favourite of the season (thanks to the fantastic Richard Curtis). And I don't usually like the historical episodes. How good were some of those lines?! "It's a thing; it's like a plan, but with more greatness." "Is this how time normally passes? Reeeeally slowly, in the right order?" "Overconfidence, this, and a small screwdriver. I'm absolutely sorted." Matt Smith is now just so completely the Doctor, for me. And I loved the references to Amy and Vincent's shared gingerness and potential ginger children.
Also, very sad and touching, for such a funny episode. They did the switch from 'evil monster' to 'lonely monster' so, so well. As with the inevitability of Van Gogh's suicide despite Amy and the Doctor bringing some light into his life. Beautifully done.
Daniel, DO it! I love that idea.
Seska, those were, indeed awesome lines. Which brings up one of the things I like best about 11. So much of his greatness is expressed in virtually thrown away lines. If you aren't listening closely, they'll whiz right past you, whereas with 10...my previous favorite...the "I'm the STUFF" stuff was so much less subtle .
bonny, I absolutely agree that some of the best bits of Eleven are in throwaway lines. It's like his mind is always whirring and he can't disconnect it from its mouth. It's hilarious.
Right, P-C. It's so endearing and humble-seeming.
With 10 and even 9, to a lesser extent, the notion that the Universe knows him and is enthralled by/cowed by his awesomeness, was so certain. Now, much less so. In fact, when he responded the the question about whether he is afraid of monsters with, "No! They are afraid of me." I knew that was what he was supposed to say, but I didn't quite believe that he believed it. Which makes his awesomeness so much more...well...awesome. Superheroes don't surprise you when they get it right. But this Doctor does. It sort of reminded me of a line from Toy Story, when Rex says, "I'm going for fierce here, but I'm just not feeling it!"
Which brings me to something that worries me, that has been repeated so many times recently, it is leading me to a 'do not want' place.
In this episode, alone, 11 says, "I'm getting old," twice. 10 said that a lot too, but in a more ironical way. Now, it makes me nervous that the PTB are planning for the end of the series. While I don't want to seem paranoid, even MASH and St. Elsewhere came to an end.
Who US:
Loved that episode. Need to go back and rewatch. Was the Dream Lord really his dark side? At first I thought he meant it was the Master, and it still could be. If not, if it really is the Doctor himself, than they are taking this show darker than ever. I wonder how kids take this show, if all that stuff goes over their heads.
Was the Dream Lord really his dark side?
It was pretty explicitly stated that while the phlebotenum creatures stuck in the Tardis caused the shared dreaming, it was the Doctor who was the Dream Master. As someone said up thread in whitefont about this episode during the UK airing re "Nobody in the Universe hates me as much as you do."
paging Dr. Freud.
It was pretty explicitly stated that while the phlebotenum creatures stuck in the Tardis caused the shared dreaming, it was the Doctor who was the Dream Master.
Someone upthread mentioned the Valeyard. I've not actually seen those episodes (I need to find them), so I can't really comment - but were we meant to think there was a link? Is this a theme they're laying down to come back to in later seasons, maybe?
"Nobody in the Universe hates me as much as you do."
When he said this I thought he was talking about the Master, but later when he stated it was his own dark side, I thought it was very telling.
It must be the psychologist in me, but I knew instantly who he was talking about and it sent a chill up my spine. There sure ain't no loathing like self loathing.