Saw the US Who with the multicolored Daleks. I fully accept 11 as the Doctor, but I'm still kind of meh about him. I don't really dislike him, but he does kind of bore me. I was looking at the clock waiting for the end and I don't think I've ever done that before. Think Amy Pond is great though.

I wasnt sure if it was the fact that it was 11 or that it was the Daleks - again. I don't know why they don't just zap him out of existence when they see him. Okay, this bunch, yes because they needed him, but why didn't the progenitors just exterminate.

why didn't the progenitors just exterminate.

They were monologuing!

I do think the Dalek ep. was the weakest of the series so far. It gets better.

"Flesh and Stone": absolutely stonking ep. I was either on the edge of the sofa or behind it most of the time. I read a review saying it was weaker than Time of Angels but can't agree at all. Poor Amy with her eyes shut in the forest... yikes. When the Angels disappeared I did think myself thinking, "scary things running away, that's never good". Which is a Buffy quote, isn't it ?

Anyone else think that the man River kills is the Doctor? I thought that was quite heavily signposted .

Yes, Amy really is that messed up. I don't think she's actually that attracted to the Doctor as wanting to run away from the wedding, so to speak. Next week should be interesting .

My one reservation with the crack thing is that it makes Amy a bit too Donna-ish for my liking, sort of "it's been about you all along". But we'll see how it pans out .

Hey, Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Brotherhood is showing in English dubs on Adult Swim. Where do we discuss?

Guardian Liveblog of "Flesh and Stone":

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(Full of spoilers, obviously).

Contains this interesting observation in the comments:

4. She [River Song] didn't kill the doctor. Recall last week, she learnt to pilot the TARDIS from 'the best man [she] ever knew' and the doctor was 'busy that day' .

DW: I'm glad that they brought out the nature of the crack and its connection to Amy this early. Now the question isn't so much 'what is the crack?' but ' what caused it?' and 'what do we do about it?' The fact that reality is in danger of being erased makes me think of the Nothing in The Neverending Story in some ways.

To me, Amy's jumping the Doctor did not read as romantic attraction at all, but as a) another way of avoiding the wedding and b) an aftereffect of all the scary stuff she had just been through. I'm with Fiona in that I'm a little worried that this is turning out to make Amy like Donna 2.0, but so far, I'm inclined to trust Moffat to handle things well.

Ooh, Fiona, that is an interesting observation. Also, a friend of mine and I were talking about just that, and thought that Octavian's reactions to the Doctor and the nature of his threats to River would have been different if the Doctor had been the victim. Speaking of Octavian, his death scene was fabulous. Like the Doctor, I do wish we'd gotten to know him better.

DW (UK): I agree with everything you said Fiona. AND, I was certain that the anvilling over the Doctor having been River's victim must be a red herring...it was just too obvious. Then again, it could be the redirect for redirect's sake. In the Confidential episode, Moffat comes right out and suggests that the assumption is wrong. So, who knows? The snog fest was funny and just about the least romantically motivated thing I've ever seen. If anything, it's the Doctor who is smitten with Amy, not the other way around.

I, too, had the thought that "It's always been about you" thing being VERY Donna-esque...in a not good way. Perhaps it turns out that the Doctor's worry about Amy not remembering the Daleks, etc...the time shifty, alternate universe stuff means that Amy IS Donna in some 'Ginger is the only constant in the Universe' sort of way .

I do think the Dalek ep. was the weakest of the series so far. It gets better.

I think this was part of my being annoyed with the new Doctor. I am ready for Daleks to become cameos and not take up full episodes. They are awesome, but I need a break from them. Previews for next week's US airing look promising. Still waiting to like Eleven.

I also wonder if I didn't become a fan at the wrong time to be a true Doctor Who fan. I didn't watch 4 regularly but I knew of him. When 9 started, I started watching the series and I loved him. Ten had me by his second episode. So I've really only watched two Doctors. Eleven reminds me more of 4 than the previous two Doctors with the eccentricity and lack of sexual appeal. Which makes me wonder if he isn't a truer representation of the Doctor and maybe I was liking something that was out of place and has now been corrected.

I am loving Eleven more and more with each episode. Like bonny, I loved "It's a thing. Respect the thing."

I love his eccentric playfulness and freewheeling, spontaneous nature, which is pretty common to the Doctor, but I enjoy how Matt Smith plays it.

While I don't like that Moffat completely rewrote the Weeping Angels, I suppose it worked for the purposes of the episodes.

I also wonder if I didn't become a fan at the wrong time to be a true Doctor Who fan.

Meh. Same time as me, and I'm good.

I've been reading that the multi-colored Daleks (which I've seen called iDalek, my first thought) were based on the Peter Cushing Dr. Who movie from the mid-'60s. Also, the Flick Filosopher is comparing Matt Smith's Eleven to Peter Davison's Five in his "old soul in a young body" approach. (He is a might tetchy, isn't he?)