Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
DW:
I'm glad that they brought out the nature of the crack and its connection to Amy this early. Now the question isn't so much 'what is the crack?' but ' what caused it?' and 'what do we do about it?' The fact that reality is in danger of being erased makes me think of the Nothing in The Neverending Story in some ways.
To me,
Amy's jumping the Doctor did not read as romantic attraction at all, but as a) another way of avoiding the wedding and b) an aftereffect of all the scary stuff she had just been through. I'm with Fiona in that I'm a little worried that this is turning out to make Amy like Donna 2.0, but so far, I'm inclined to trust Moffat to handle things well.
Ooh, Fiona, that
is
an interesting observation. Also, a friend of mine and I were talking about just that, and
thought that Octavian's reactions to the Doctor and the nature of his threats to River would have been different if the Doctor had been the victim. Speaking of Octavian, his death scene was fabulous. Like the Doctor, I do wish we'd gotten to know him better.
DW (UK):
I agree with everything you said Fiona.
AND, I was certain that the
anvilling over the Doctor having been River's victim must be a red herring...it was just too obvious.
Then again, it could be the redirect for redirect's sake. In the Confidential episode,
Moffat comes right out and suggests that the assumption is wrong.
So, who knows?
The
snog fest was funny and just about the least romantically motivated thing I've ever seen.
If anything, it's
the Doctor who is smitten with Amy, not the other way around.
I, too, had the thought that
"It's always been about you" thing being VERY Donna-esque...in a not good way. Perhaps it turns out that the Doctor's worry about Amy not remembering the Daleks, etc...the time shifty, alternate universe stuff means that Amy IS Donna in some 'Ginger is the only constant in the Universe' sort of way
.
I do think the Dalek ep. was the weakest of the series so far. It gets better.
I think this was part of my being annoyed with the new Doctor. I am ready for Daleks to become cameos and not take up full episodes. They are awesome, but I need a break from them. Previews for next week's US airing look promising. Still waiting to like Eleven.
I also wonder if I didn't become a fan at the wrong time to be a true Doctor Who fan. I didn't watch 4 regularly but I knew of him. When 9 started, I started watching the series and I loved him. Ten had me by his second episode. So I've really only watched two Doctors. Eleven reminds me more of 4 than the previous two Doctors with the eccentricity and lack of sexual appeal. Which makes me wonder if he isn't a truer representation of the Doctor and maybe I was liking something that was out of place and has now been corrected.
I am loving Eleven more and more with each episode. Like bonny, I loved
"It's a thing. Respect the thing."
I love his eccentric playfulness and freewheeling, spontaneous nature, which is pretty common to the Doctor, but I enjoy how Matt Smith plays it.
While I don't like that Moffat
completely rewrote the Weeping Angels, I suppose it worked for the purposes of the episodes.
I also wonder if I didn't become a fan at the wrong time to be a true Doctor Who fan.
Meh. Same time as me, and I'm good.
I've been reading that the multi-colored Daleks (which I've seen called iDalek, my first thought) were based on the Peter Cushing Dr. Who movie from the mid-'60s. Also, the Flick Filosopher is comparing Matt Smith's Eleven to Peter Davison's Five in his "old soul in a young body" approach. (He is a might tetchy, isn't he?)
DW (UK): Since it was a hectic week for me and I got the recommendation of not watching Time of the Angels since it was 2-ep thing, I only now watched it. And my. Me, I don't have a lot of criticism for a TV show which keeps me on my toes and bangs me with a Sensawunda. But dammit, Amy Pond, when a man says "no", it's a "no". I'd hate to watch it if it was the other way around.
Also: really, who's gonna buy it? [link]
I don't know, Shir. it's kind of awesome!
Oh, if my ex were into DW, that would be exactly the sort of thing he'd put in his front yard.
I was very irritated with 11 for the 1st half of the episode - but then he got played. I wonder if the different colored Daleks are supposed to have different functions.
The new time/space rifty thing was v. interesting.
I was very irritated with 11 for the 1st half of the episode - but then he got played.
I was waiting for that. I mean, I was sort of annoyed that he didn't realize that YOU DON'T POKE A DALEK WITH A STICK. Although he probably did realize it. He just likes poking Daleks with sticks.