Look, you got a little stabbed the other day. That's bound to make anyone a mite ornery.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Stephanie - Mar 21, 2010 10:32:10 am PDT #12352 of 30001
Trust my rage

I have a little more sympathy for Zoe now. Growing up in that house, no wonder. Although the blanks were a bit of a letdown (for which I was grateful.) we just learned that he wouldn't *actually* shoot his dog and we don't know whether Zoe would shoot the dog. To me her sensing the difference was a bit of punch-pulling.


Jon B. - Mar 21, 2010 9:05:01 pm PDT #12353 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I am surprised no one mentioned Lindsay Crouse on FF.

If I hadn't seen her name in the credits, I never would have recognized her.

They had to retcon away his flashback, so I think it was fair to be surprised.

I thought a retcon was only when the writers explain away something that was not originally planned. Do you think that was the case here?


Polter-Cow - Mar 21, 2010 9:41:21 pm PDT #12354 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

If I hadn't seen her name in the credits, I never would have recognized her.

I saw her name in the credits but didn't recognize her! Who the hell was she??


Jon B. - Mar 22, 2010 2:18:05 am PDT #12355 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm pretty sure she was the craxy bible-burning, wing-wearing, penny-pasting momma.


sj - Mar 22, 2010 3:06:06 am PDT #12356 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm pretty sure she was the craxy bible-burning, wing-wearing, penny-pasting momma.

Yup, that was her.


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2010 4:53:15 am PDT #12357 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you think that was the case here?

Given the showrunner shuffles in the extended hiatus, I do suspect so, yes. If they'd planned to do it all along, I'd have hoped they'd have done it more smoothly.


Stephanie - Mar 22, 2010 5:09:41 am PDT #12358 of 30001
Trust my rage

I have the new ep on my Tivo but I can't decide if it's worth my time to watch. it was so-so back in November, and I hate that sort of reshuffling.


le nubian - Mar 22, 2010 5:35:54 am PDT #12359 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

watch it. I liked the 2 hours. it certainly moved at a brisk pace and that's 75% of the battle for me.


sj - Mar 22, 2010 5:38:35 am PDT #12360 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Stephanie, I thought the episode was definitely worth watching.


Barb - Mar 22, 2010 6:00:29 am PDT #12361 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

Stephanie, I thought it did a nice job of reigniting the things that made the story intriguing in the first place and reshuffling just enough to recapture interest.

I think it's definitely worth the two hours.