OK. As usual, I tend to think otherwise. God, just, give me a moment here, would ya? I'm still all teary, and it's a very good thing I type this, and you don't hear me sniffle in real time.

This was not the ending I was hoping for. While my expectations to EoT p.1 were huge, and indeed I was happy with most of what happened, I had none regarding to part 2. What would they be able to do that will make me gasp even more, cry (as in yelling, not as in crying) and get emotional over with that sense of wonder that part 1 didn't make me feel/react to? The computer stayed turned on during another not-getting-much-sleep-due-to-fever night, to get me the ep.

My sense of wonder, and any credit I ever wanted Ten to have, just as the credit he wanted to give to the Timelords, are gone. Devastated. I remember that last week someone mentioned that Nine had so much more dignity in him, and humor, when his time came. I didn't believe it until I watched part 2, where I saw Ten retreats into his most childish appearance ever. His way or the highway, which almost made me think that everything Ten ever was was a childish, overrated Doctor who couldn't face mature decisions unless when they were his decisions. It took me several long minutes to remind myself that it's not the case. This is not the Doctor, the Ten I loved. This is not the character that made me lose hours of sleep, from ecstasy about a new episode, or just browsing the internet to read reviews, commentaries, YouTube clips. And the more the ep. continues, the worse it got. Snapping at Wilf, despite I continue to dislike him, is not Ten. His death was not Ten, and I'm almost furious that Tennant's exit was the scared little boy who didn't want to be alone. Ten, IMO, was so much more.

Disliked: Wilf. The end of The Master. The use of the return of the Timelords for what, 40 minutes of an ep? That shit could last for a season! Also, what I rambled about in the previous paragraph. Ten's "reward" (oh, come on! That's no way to do a goodbye sequence montage!). All of the hints of Ten's "improper" relationship with humans (if that's improper, your entire series is improper, genius!).

Lurved:"Worst. Rescue. Ever!" (you see? THAT is my Ten). The master. Donna's mom, at times. The Ood. And the last, but hardly, hardly the least: ladies and gentlemen, the Cactus Gal ("that's racist!") rocked my world. Damn, she could have been a great sidekick. I know I'd love to see her again. Hell, she might have been the only character I could relate to in this... arrgh, I cannot believe this is the end of Ten. You know, just watched the ep, it'll take me time to accept it.

If you read so far, surely you'll understand why I can't wait for Matt Smith/Moffat era to start. I liked, not loved, his entrance ("I'm a girl...?"). Right now anything would be better, just to remove the aftertaste of disappointment over Ten's ending.

Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Convince me it was a good ending. I do not wish to remember Ten like this. Fuck you, RTD. Fuck you.

I need a hug. Or a strong drink. Could do both.

Passes the whiskey and the purring cat to Shir. I have to say that the end was not so much to serve the story, as to serve the storytellers.

How so, WindSparrow? I feel that both weren't served well by this story.

Shir, the long goodbye montage was definitely what Rusty wanted rather than what the story demanded, Ten saying he didn't want to go - that felt like it was supposed to be a message from Tennant to the fans instead of the Doctor's voice. Except, who knows for sure what Tennant really feels, I just imagine him feeling that way.

EoT2: Now that I have a few minutes, I have to say that LotR was the first thing that popped into my head about when we saw Jack (and then Donna. And then Rose). I liked seeing everyone but I felt like it detracted - significantly - from the storytelling. The one thing I did like about that long ending was knowing that apparently the Doctor forgave/understood Jack in some way for CoE.

I have always liked the Master so his decision to work on the Doctor's side at the very end made me happy. Having said that, I'm not sure who either of the two mysterious women were (were they just one?) and it seems like cheating a bit to introduce some random woman at the end and have it be *her* face that made the Doctor's decision.

I have decided that the Time Lords must have been working from the past, which wasn't at all clear, and not simply chilling in their time locked bubble. But, that part of the plot was lame, I thought. I have read fic that did a much more coherent job of bringing back the time lords.

Not a hug fan of Eleven off the bat, but I bet that's afairly normal reaction. I liked Nine but hated Rose and didn't really like Ten or even enjoy the show until she was gone. I loved Wilf and I like seeing the Doctor interact with someone who wasn't attracted to him. I thought Donna was wasted and was hoping there was more to her involvement.

Finally, despite my criticisms, I mostly liked it. The Cacti were great, I liked all Wilf's interactions with Ten, I loved the Master stuff, and even Ten's tantrum while Wilt was in the box added to the story/character. I saw DT say somewhere that with a character like the Doctor, you can only tell this sort of story at the end because he can't really change until he does. So I liked seeing the Doctor struggle with his own end, even though he's not really ending.

Stephanie, I believe that the Time Lords were, indeed, acting from the past, from inside the time bubble, and I believe it was simply during the last few moments while the Doctor was outside it, doing what needed to be done to end the Time Wars. There was mention of needing the signal to travel through Time as well as space.

I see, WindSparrow, and I agree.

Stephanie, as for the two mysterious women, I thought they were the ones who opposed James Bond's offer for the Timelords to rise, and that was their punishment.

Normally, I'm pretty down with the timey-wimey aspects of the show, but I thought the voiceover in the beginning of EoT1 made it seem like the President Time Lord was watching Earth on Christmas Day. I can see how he could have been doing it from the past, but it just felt present day to me, which confused me. Which is my way of saying that I agree with you but it confused me. Does this mean that the Doctor ended his race twice? Although I guess it was the Master this time .

I totally agree with Andi's thoughts about whom the ending(s) served.

Which kind of peeved me when it came to the plaintive "I don't want to go." I actually said to the screen, "Really? You've been torturing us with this for a year and NOW you need to manipulate us like this? Gack.

Oddly, the montage of ROTK proportions was my favorite part of the episode .

I also agree that it would have been better if 11 showed a more distinct personality. But I suspect there will eventually be more specific differences. The whole set up seemed to be geared for a 'soft landing' for the traumatized fans.

But I suspect there will eventually be more specific differences.

The season trailer I saw was so much more promising and exciting than the tidbit we got within the show. It is definitely a palate cleanser.

The whole set up seemed to be geared for a 'soft landing' for the traumatized fans

Which is such a mixed message following the self-serving goodbye. Rip the f-ing bandage off, I say. It really does hurt less.