I totally agree with Andi's thoughts about whom the ending(s) served.

Which kind of peeved me when it came to the plaintive "I don't want to go." I actually said to the screen, "Really? You've been torturing us with this for a year and NOW you need to manipulate us like this? Gack.

Oddly, the montage of ROTK proportions was my favorite part of the episode .

I also agree that it would have been better if 11 showed a more distinct personality. But I suspect there will eventually be more specific differences. The whole set up seemed to be geared for a 'soft landing' for the traumatized fans.

But I suspect there will eventually be more specific differences.

The season trailer I saw was so much more promising and exciting than the tidbit we got within the show. It is definitely a palate cleanser.

The whole set up seemed to be geared for a 'soft landing' for the traumatized fans

Which is such a mixed message following the self-serving goodbye. Rip the f-ing bandage off, I say. It really does hurt less.

I'm not worried about 11's personality. Moffat will be in charge of him, and I trust the man to do his job well staring at Rusty. No, really.

And yes, I would not have been traumatized unless someone thought it is a good idea to try and get the inner maternal instinct in me out. I didn't feel so sorry for Ten in the end. Poor thing, doesn't want to go. Bo-ho. I did feel sorry for the lousy, unjust ending that character got. Someone murdered Ten in front of my eyes from the very beginning of the episode, so I just couldn't bring myself to identify with the alien he was at the end of it.

Rusty, you're ON THE LIST. At least until I'll remember the good work you did.

Rip the f-ing bandage off, I say. It really does hurt less.

Amen, sister. Also? more fun. Metaphorically speaking.

Frankly, I thought the bulk of this was just poor storytelling. I have no patience for creators who put their personal emotional desires over the needs of the story, and fully 30% of this two-parter was Rusty indulging himself. We didn't need to see all the Companions again (and since when does Jack need help pulling someone?), the story got positively repetitive in spots (how many times did Ten switch the gun around? Six? Eight?), and it did ferocious damage to the characters. Martha marrying Mickey is a straight-out retcon as far as I'm concerned (I liked Tom!).

I was tired of the "oh noes I'm going to die!" bullshit in the first ten minutes of Part 1, and I lost all sympathy for the Doctor when he started ranting at poor Wilf for having done the right thing and getting stuck in the box.

The Doctor Does Not Whinge. That's why he's the Doctor, damnit.

So, yeah. Bring on Moffatt, I say. Maybe we'll see Sally Sparrow again.

Man, that whiny ass rant at Wilf was awful. I mean, sure, it wasn't actually AT Wilf, but it was NEAR him, a guy who had done nothing but respect, support, and love the Doctor. Thus ensuring that when the Doctor DID finally get around to saving Wilf, then he would be wracked with guilt about killing the Doctor.

I mean, REALLY.

Watching the Confidential today made me roll my eyes so hard. Tom pointed out that the tantrum WAS actually, totally Ten. Which is sadly true.

>Rusty indulging himself

And sadly, not off screen, where it ought to be.

Well, yes, exactly.

I have a profound distaste for emoporn, always have. I like my heroes contained, their angst implied rather than explicit. This hit many of my buttons, in all the wrong ways.

EOT2 (I'm going to go on and on here): Well. Unlike Shir, I did not hate that. I hated part 1, so 'not-hate' was all I was looking for at this point, really. But I really rather enjoyed it.

I liked: GALLIFREY RISES! The Time Lord stuff was very cool. No, not perfect. Yes, they needed significantly more time to deal with that storyline (so give me less of the Master eating last week, already). But it was cool. My one irritation here was that the President was *not* Rassillion, as the Doctor called him, because Rassillion is dead. So unless it's a title and this fact passed me by, that was an annoying bit of discontinuity. I was also very keen on everything that Wilf and the Doctor did. He was the perfect final companion. Genius idea on someone's part, that was.

But most of all, I loved how, though it began with ridiculously superfluous supernatural Master-stuff, it all ended with one single moment of decision that was all about the Doctor. I nearly cried when it became clear just how *simple* the prophecy "He will knock four times" was. Because he realised that Character is Destiny. That he had to die not because of a prophecy, not even through a situation beyond his control, but because of who he is. The Doctor's death is not some timey-wimey-spacey thing - it's the saving of one apparently inconsequential human being. I. Fucking. Loved. That. (It seems I had the completely opposite response to Nora on this one. For me, his rant wasn't a rant at Wilf, not really. It was a rant at human beings and how he didn't want to HAVE to die for them, and a rant at himself for HAVING to anyway because that's who he is and he wouldn't have it any other way.)

I didn't love the goodbye montage quite so much as the rest of the death/regeneration stuff, because it was more RTD than Ten. But it wasn't totally out of character, either. The Doctor had been facing a death that, until just before, he had thought would be his ultimate end. He has clearly loved being Ten (cf. "I don't want to go"). He got slightly longer to regenerate than in the past, and he decided to take advantage of that. I'm not against this. Just as long as no future Doctors repeat the stunt, kthx?

New Doctor? I like him so far ("Still not ginger!" was fantastic). Yeah, it was a lot like Tennant's regeneration, but he also put his own spin on it. Beyond that, we'll see how he does. I still trust Doctor Who on casting (and Moffat on writing, as Shir points out).

I disliked the catcus people. Apparently I'm alone in this - but they were not funny, they were not clever, and I didn't see the point. Blah. And I hate that they had Martha marry Mickey. I have to go back and watch her Torchwood episodes to see if it's retcon, but I *think* she never said who she was married to. However, putting them together because they're both black is irritating as hell. I seriously hope that Torchwood makes some use of them and/or of their relationship, to make up for that one.

Regarding the mysterious woman: they played Rose's theme when she uncovered her eyes. To me this means someone very important to him, if not Rose herself. I agree with Shir that she was one of the Time Lords who opposed the decision to return to Earth after the Master and the Doctor. (Also, they did say that these two would become the Weeping Angels of Blink, right? 'Cause that was COOL!) But I think there's more to her than just another Time Lord, since they voiced the question of who she is. "I was lost" is interesting. My guess is maybe Susan (his granddaughter, who was left on Gallifrey) or another family member.

Wilf, though. What's up with the constant misdirects? "Who are you?" from the Doctor can't mean *nothing*. Unless it was just to reinforce the thing where all human beings are important and worth dying for yada yada, although that wasn't completely clear. I'd love it if (continued...)