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'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Kate P. - Dec 28, 2009 6:25:05 pm PST #11451 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Doctor Who:

Wow, there was so much WTF going on in that episode, I don't even know what to say. The Time Lords are returning? (Although, woo, Timothy Dalton!) I totally didn't see that coming, even though I suppose I should have -- but, um, isn't it a complete reversal of the basic premise of the new series? I don't really know how I feel about that. I can't quite imagine a Doctor who isn't alone in the universe(s). We'll see how part 2 wraps it up, I guess...

I liked the scene with the Doctor and Wilf in the pub, and the scene with the Doctor visiting the Master in his lair (of sorts). I like how protective the Doctor is with the Master, and I'm pretty much always in favor of the slashy best-enemies vibe those two have got going on. And the sound of the drums, and the four knocks being the Master's heartbeat! But I was not so much in favor of the Master flying around on waves of magic electricity everywhere.

Also liked the Doctor's line at the beginning about all the rambling around he'd been doing trying to avoid the Ood. I was thinking that line would explain all the adventures he'd had with River Song, which presumably we'll never see, so when he said he got married, I expected he meant to her. But if he meant Queen Elizabeth, then... I don't know.

Oh, and I also liked the two minor characters at the burger stand, Some Guy (Tommo?) and Ginger. Those are the kind of characters that I love about this show; they felt real, and interesting, and odd, but not just for the sake of being quirky. I wish they'd lived longer!

I have to say that I think I much prefer the smaller stand-alone episodes, on balance, over the grander stories, the specials with all their end-of-the-world-again dramatics. I understand why they structured this year the way they did, with all the specials, but I'll be glad to get back to the regular episodes next year.


Shir - Dec 28, 2009 7:30:03 pm PST #11452 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh, I forgot about the River Song loose end.

I guess they wouldn't, but I really hope they would solve this. The Doctor deserves to be loved, on screen, by a lot of people.


WindSparrow - Dec 28, 2009 7:47:58 pm PST #11453 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

The Doctor deserves to be loved, on screen, by a lot of people.

That's what the porn industry is for.


Stephanie - Dec 29, 2009 8:24:01 am PST #11454 of 30001
Trust my rage

Does anyone remember posting here a link to a video blog that David Tennant did in his early days as the Doctor? I remember him in a trailer maybe talking about being nervous on his first day. I know I originally found it here but my search through our archives and YouTube have come up with nothing.


Jon B. - Dec 29, 2009 8:49:15 am PST #11455 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Stephanie: I thought I'd found the motherload -- [link] -- but they were taken down from youtube for terms of use violations. :(


Jon B. - Dec 29, 2009 8:50:54 am PST #11456 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Found it! [link]

t edit wrong one. Link fixed.


Stephanie - Dec 29, 2009 8:56:56 am PST #11457 of 30001
Trust my rage

Sweet! Thanks, Jon!


Frankenbuddha - Dec 29, 2009 5:54:55 pm PST #11458 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So I DVRd the recent rebroadcast of The Runaway Bride, and watched it tonight, because I was curious how it would play post-Companion!Donna. Still a bit too shrill and noisy an episode, but it was interesting to see the groundwork laid.

However, could someone confirm for me one way or the other - there was a scene where Donna basically told the Doctor off that he was too dangerous to be around at the end of the episode (at least partly based on his fate for the Empress and her children). And didn't he ask her along (which I remember leading to the chewing out)?

In any case, they cut that bit on this rebroadcast. If it's my imagination, or if I'm conflating it with a different ep,, I'd like to know. Otherwise, curse you BBCA programming monkeys!!!


Stephanie - Dec 29, 2009 6:28:01 pm PST #11459 of 30001
Trust my rage

Im totally going on memory here but I thought he asked her along and she said no. Because I thought part of her deal in the beginning of S4 was that she had changed her mind and was going to accept his offer. Complete with hatbox.


§ ita § - Dec 29, 2009 7:46:28 pm PST #11460 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Man, I'm going to miss Tennant something awful. I'm rewatching The End of Time. I think it's quite scattered and sometimes overkinetic, but way worth it for the cafe scene.

Who did Martha end up hooking up with? Did all of the Companions of New Who get with black guys, or were they all interracial relationships?