What day does Chuck premier?
Come on out, River. The nice man wants to kidnap you.
Simon ,'Objects In Space'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Tom Scola - Dec 28, 2009 2:21:55 am PST #11431 of 30001
hwæt
Shir - Dec 28, 2009 2:25:43 am PST #11432 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Lo, lo and behold, for I have time to reply!
Yes, sorry. But these extra 20 minutes to log into b.org and read all were unpredictable, and the urge to talk, talk, and talk some more about the Doctor was STRONG.
Now. As for "What I Watch TV for": on the very broad scale, I couldn't care less about "facts", "holes in the plot", etc.. That's because I watch TV to see relationships. I only care about the stuff I just said I didn't care about if it's regarding the characters (esp. the one I like), the way they act, and their relationships. God knows that my life doesn't have any rational cord I can follow at times, so the best I can do is follow myself. So that's the focus I'm looking for.
Plus, we've never been closer in the new series, IMHO, to subtext-ed gay porn. The look on the faces of the Master and Doctor was the definition of "pining".
Second, I love your speculations. Can't wait to see what will come up next. Giving my approach to TV shows, and not the look after the facts (and it's not that I don't understand you there - it's just not what I'm looking for), that was one of the best Doctor's eps, giving the emotional scope.
Jon B. - Dec 28, 2009 3:02:51 am PST #11433 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
§ ita § - Dec 28, 2009 5:11:09 am PST #11434 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The unaired season 1 Fringe episode will be shown on Monday January 11th.
sumi - Dec 28, 2009 7:59:19 am PST #11435 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Okay, I loved EoT and wonder, if Wilf is part TimeLord than why couldn't Donna integrate the timelord stuff better?
My theory is that the end of time is also the beginning of time and that's why the TimeLords come back. .. thus making 11 also 1.
sumi - Dec 28, 2009 7:59:57 am PST #11436 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Thanks for the Fringe info, ita - I will make sure that Tivo gets it. (I just checked and my tivo doesn't have netflix streaming ability - I am sad.)
Typo Boy - Dec 28, 2009 8:01:35 am PST #11437 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
BTW, the Doctor's throwaway about how "the nickname no longer fits", regarding Good Queen Bess. The nickname he refers to is (of course) The Virgin Queen. Is this the first time they've been that explicit that the Doctor has sex with humans? Also wasn't the "nickname" just a way to be polite about her unmarried status. Didn't Elizabeth actually have a number of lovers, possibly starting at an age and in circumstances where her ability to give and especially to withhold consent were highly questionable.
§ ita § - Dec 28, 2009 8:02:58 am PST #11438 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I thought EoT was a bit hectic, but so was The Master, so I can see why. I will need to watch it again before part 2, which I will be seeing late, because I'll be travelling next weekend.
There's a twitter movement to join the Master race by changing your icon to John Simm. If I were a tweeter, I totally would. John Simm from Tehran. Way to invalidate a database.
Sumi, you know I forgot to check if my TiVo has gotten word of it. Thanks for the heads up.
sumi - Dec 28, 2009 8:04:28 am PST #11439 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Well, the first doctor had a partially human grand daughter.
And yes about The Virgin Queen nick name.
Also, my friend Sandy who has watched Doctor Who forever thinks that the lady that Wilf keeps seeing is the "White Guardian" and that she exists to counter-balance the Master somehow. She wasn't clear. But perhaps the Doctor and the Master destroy each other to end time and bring about new time.
Tom Scola - Dec 28, 2009 8:05:59 am PST #11440 of 30001
hwæt
Is this the first time they've been that explicit that the Doctor has sex with humans?
It depends on how explicit you want your explicit to be. I mean, the odds that he didn't sleep with Madame de Pompadour are pretty low.