BTW, the Doctor's throwaway about how "the nickname no longer fits", regarding Good Queen Bess. The nickname he refers to is (of course) The Virgin Queen. Is this the first time they've been that explicit that the Doctor has sex with humans? Also wasn't the "nickname" just a way to be polite about her unmarried status. Didn't Elizabeth actually have a number of lovers, possibly starting at an age and in circumstances where her ability to give and especially to withhold consent were highly questionable.

I thought EoT was a bit hectic, but so was The Master, so I can see why. I will need to watch it again before part 2, which I will be seeing late, because I'll be travelling next weekend.

There's a twitter movement to join the Master race by changing your icon to John Simm. If I were a tweeter, I totally would. John Simm from Tehran. Way to invalidate a database.

Sumi, you know I forgot to check if my TiVo has gotten word of it. Thanks for the heads up.

Well, the first doctor had a partially human grand daughter.

And yes about The Virgin Queen nick name.

Also, my friend Sandy who has watched Doctor Who forever thinks that the lady that Wilf keeps seeing is the "White Guardian" and that she exists to counter-balance the Master somehow. She wasn't clear. But perhaps the Doctor and the Master destroy each other to end time and bring about new time.

Is this the first time they've been that explicit that the Doctor has sex with humans?

It depends on how explicit you want your explicit to be. I mean, the odds that he didn't sleep with Madame de Pompadour are pretty low.

At least before he ran off to find the Master, I thought his entire attitude screamed "Fuck the rules!" and that the line about Good Queen Bess was meant as another example of him no longer following his own rules or anyone else's.

What was the exact line?

::googles::

Something like ... “Got married! That was a mistake. Good Queen Bess. And let me tell you, her nickname is no longer, er, anyway...”

Savvier minds than mine have pointed out that this was maybe why she was mad at him at the end of The Shakespeare Code.

That's funny - I hadn't made that connection, but didn't she then set up Torchwood because she was mad at the Doctor?

That was Victoria, not Elizabeth.

I think Queen Victoria set up Torchwood because she was mad at him after Tooth and Claw.

His track record with the female royals--not good.

Oh, right. (I've been posting and reading while arguing with my bank and mortgage company. Grr. Do not harass me when I'm trying to *give* you money.)