I believe he got tranqued.
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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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DCJensen - Dec 27, 2009 4:58:33 am PST #11422 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Barb - Dec 27, 2009 5:28:29 am PST #11423 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”
I got so hungry watching The End of Time that I had to hit pause and nuke some turkey with all the fixings.
Whereas I may never look at a whole turkey the same way again. John Simm had way too much fun with those scenes.
Juliebird - Dec 27, 2009 5:44:07 am PST #11424 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
At least it was more bearable than Denethor? gnoshing on cherry tomatoes, what with the bursting of flesh and the juice dribbling down his chin.
Stephanie - Dec 27, 2009 7:04:36 am PST #11425 of 30001
Trust my rage
What was the deal with the focus on Obama? It seemed sort of out of place.
Kathy A - Dec 27, 2009 8:10:06 am PST #11426 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
In the extended close up bit at the end of the show, RTD said that he felt that he couldn't ignore something as major as the election of Obama, so he decided to use him instead of a made-up President.
§ ita § - Dec 27, 2009 8:14:05 am PST #11427 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It felt weird because they've pointedly used made up leaders of countries up to this point.
beekaytee - Dec 27, 2009 8:18:03 am PST #11428 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant
Seska, I like your speculation even more than my own.
And I have to take something back. Donna's ma DID get Masterified, so at least part of my notion is already wrong.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Dec 27, 2009 9:37:30 am PST #11429 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
We just rewatched it (there's nothing like the Master chomping down on a whole turkey to put you off your dinner). It's growing on me, as an episode - being able to fast-forward through the scenes I disliked helped there. Mostly, I noticed that there was more of Tennant and Cribbins than I originally thought, and that everything they did was wonderful.
Speculation-y stuff: If the Time Lords were cowards and went into hiding to survive the Time War, the Doctor is going to be thoroughly pissed off.
Barb - Dec 27, 2009 10:00:30 am PST #11430 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”
About your speculation-y stuff, Seska: I got the impression that that cabal of super high up Time Lords were looking at the situation from their position in the past and that they're reacting to a prophecy, blah, blah, fishcakes. Which then goes back to The Doctor being so insistent in "Waters of Mars" on how some points in time are indelibly fixed and cannot be changed. Ergo, no matter what they do, they're still gonna croak. Because RTD can be a bastard like that.
Tom Scola - Dec 28, 2009 2:21:55 am PST #11431 of 30001
hwæt
What day does Chuck premier?