I would like to see a Torchwood where everything is fine and each week we see the foibles of Rhys & Gwen raising an adorable kiddo.
What? I didn't ask for a not-ever-dead Ianto & Jack to be living together happily in Swansea or something.
Mal: Go on. Get in there. Give your brother a thrashing for messing up your plan. River: He takes so much looking after.
'Objects In Space'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
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Liese S. - Oct 30, 2009 1:33:51 pm PDT #10570 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Stephanie - Oct 30, 2009 2:15:20 pm PDT #10571 of 30001
Trust my rage
Torchwood is a weird show to me. I've never felt super attached to any of the characters, although they did a great job of making me love Ianto more and more just before he died. But I sort of think what Jack did was unforgivable. I mean, yes he saved the world and all, but I don't think I could trust someone who so easily chose his own grandson to die. Maybe this is my post-parent feelings coming into play (I've noticed i have way less tolerance on kid things these days), but I find Jack's tossing away the idea of "an injury to one is an injury to all" very upsetting. Having said that, I suppose that's why I liked the mini-series so much. The story pushed the boundaries and made me uncomfortable.
Jessica - Oct 31, 2009 9:10:25 am PDT #10572 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Caught up on last week's Flash Forward - so the LHC caused the blackout? That's less sinister than I was hoping for.
I bought the Mark/Olivia stuff. Good for her for following through and deciding not to be an enabler this time around.
Polter-Cow - Oct 31, 2009 9:29:02 am PDT #10573 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Having just re-read The Shining, I saw shades of Jack and Wendy in Mark and Olivia.
§ ita § - Oct 31, 2009 12:41:20 pm PDT #10574 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Kate still bothers me in Sanctuary, but not as much as the crappy flying effects did. Do they spend so much on CGI that they have no SFX budget left over? He looked so awful in every shot.
le nubian - Oct 31, 2009 12:55:50 pm PDT #10575 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Defying Gravity, the creator is interviewed about where the series would have gone in the future:
Tom Scola - Oct 31, 2009 1:39:54 pm PDT #10576 of 30001
hwæt
I just rewatched “The Horror of Fang Rock”, a Doctor Who serial from 1977. It’s nice to be reminded how awesome Leela was.
“Enjoy your death, as I have enjoyed killing you!”
Connie Neil - Oct 31, 2009 1:42:16 pm PDT #10577 of 30001
brillig
I so wish Leela could have met Sarah Jane. Leela even got to go to Gallifrey, and Sarah Jane didn't.
Connie Neil - Oct 31, 2009 2:01:02 pm PDT #10578 of 30001
brillig
For Fringe fans, you should immediately go to the Fringe page on Fox on Demand and watch the Deep in the Lab clips. Walter, musing on random things as he putters around the lab.
§ ita § - Oct 31, 2009 2:32:59 pm PDT #10579 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Defying Gravity: It's good to have long term plans for your show, but I also think in this day and age of ephemery it's practical to have a good 13 episode mini arc. Doesn't sound like they were remotely going there. Everything sounded like the payoff was in the long haul. I think the show needed more quick wins--I got nothing against a long arc, but there have to be shorter, quicker beats in the story too.