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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Juliebird - Mar 14, 2008 4:49:28 pm PDT #1019 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I stopped watching Jericho last season because their handle of the "how society deals with an apocalypse (of sorts)" was completely hamfisted and annoying and I don't have the Skeet Ulrich love. But the few eps I've caught this season, despite (or, more likely, perhaps because of) the radically changed focus and streamlining or whatever it is that's different about it, I'm enjoying it more. Much more than the first six or so eps I caught of the first season, at least. Although I do kinda wish they'd been able to sustain that post-apoplectic feel to it. It's a bit disconcerting to see electricity and holding an emergency light to help with a surgery, yet on the other hand it's nice not to be bogged down with "OMG, no more candles or matches or gasoline and this otherwise superficial wound will kill them because we've lost our technology!"

I feel like I'm saying totally contradictory things. Maybe I am. Maybe it's because what I hoped the show would bring was handled so poorly that I'm glad that what I had hoped the show would bring wasn't brought and ditched in favor of something else.

... And finally saw the latest ep (I asked for Tivo and got a digital photo printer which we don't use, and the system of labelling the VHS tapes with days of the weeks goes out the window within the second week of having bought new tapes!). Stanley's conversation with Bonnie in Sign was heartbreaking. And then later when he offs Toepick I was so horrified. Not with the characters action, but with the fandoms reaction that I'd been reading about elsewhere that were all ZOMG!Awesome!!!PointBlankBitch! and it so wasn't that. It was horrible and sad. I felt no vindication for Stanley, in fact Stanley felt no vindication for Stanley. I did not enjoy that killing and feel a little sickened that some (hopefully not the majority) did.


Consuela - Mar 14, 2008 6:29:56 pm PDT #1020 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Juliebird, I have often noticed that reaction to the killing of a Bad Guy, particularly in the movies. "Yippee-kay-yay, mother-fucker," and so forth.

What little reaction I've seen on my flist to that scene is more in line with you: shock and concern about what this will do to Stanley, who's the one male figure on the show that hasn't been pretty greyed up. I wouldn't have been surprised if Eric or Jake or Hawkins had done it--although no, I would have been surprised if Hawkins did it, because he would have known it was a poor move strategically. But Stanley? Yeah, that was a shock.

So in one sense I welcome it, because it was unexpected and shocking, but it was also wrong, and thus it's going to give us some interesting fallout. And we've already seen that, from Beck's reaction at the sight of Goetz' body outside New Bern.


quester - Mar 14, 2008 7:53:08 pm PDT #1021 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I was fully expecting one of the New Bernians to shoot him. Stanley doing it and then having the sickened reaction to it felt just as shocking as Bonnie's actions and death in the last episode. This season is really packing the punches.


Dana - Mar 15, 2008 4:08:36 am PDT #1022 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Torchwood vid rec: Papa Don't Preach. Probably inevitable in a fandom with canon mpreg, and deeply, deeply funny.


amych - Mar 15, 2008 7:19:13 am PDT #1023 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Oh, my, that was some lovely crack.


Vortex - Mar 15, 2008 11:56:50 am PDT #1024 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Probably inevitable in a fandom with canon mpreg,

?? Did I miss something?


Dana - Mar 15, 2008 11:59:03 am PDT #1025 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Jack made a comment in the first episode about being pregnant, and never doing that again.


Vortex - Mar 15, 2008 12:12:19 pm PDT #1026 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

oh, right.


Vortex - Mar 15, 2008 5:04:41 pm PDT #1027 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Holy fucking shit. Burn Gorman is a HELL of an actor. He has managed to redeem Owen. Some fucking amazing work tonight. I'm almost overwhelmed.


Fay - Mar 15, 2008 5:07:59 pm PDT #1028 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Jack made a comment in the first episode about being pregnant, and never doing that again.

Yeah, they pretty much came right out in the first five minutes of episode one and waved the 'We Are Crackfic Incarnate' banners, bless 'em.

And, hey, we know from Doctor Who that Jack has canonically been known to keep a gun stored UP HIS ASS for emergencies - this is the only show I can think of where I genuinely expect Tentacle Porn to crop up at some point. (If it hasn't already this season.)