Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


Spike's Bitches 38: Well, This Is Just...Neat.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Pix - Dec 19, 2007 12:29:18 pm PST #9138 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

That's great news, Suzi!


Hil R. - Dec 19, 2007 12:34:01 pm PST #9139 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I haven't read The Silver Chair yet (I'm getting through the Narnia books pretty slowly, and that's the next one up), but now I'm really interested to read it. (I was rolling my eyes at the end of Voyage of the Dawn Treader where Aslan said something like, "Of course I exist in your world. It was just better for you to meet me here first, where you could get to know me in this form, before you got older and went back to your world and got to know me there." I expect subtext to be slightly more sub than than.)


Susan W. - Dec 19, 2007 12:35:07 pm PST #9140 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Typo, FWIW, I'm aware of both the context of my Puddleglum quote, and of the degree to which my own appropriation of it departs from the original intent.


Susan W. - Dec 19, 2007 12:41:12 pm PST #9141 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

The Silver Chair is my favorite of the series now, though when I first read it as a child it was my second-to-least favorite of the lot. The Magician's Nephew has always been my least favorite, and I hate that they've changed the series packaging so that TMN rather than TLTWATW is the first book. It's just not anything like as good an introduction to the series, IMHO.

Anyway. When I was a kid I didn't much like TSC because so much of it seemed dark and dreary. Now that's what resonates with me--the idea of living out a commitment, and a faith, when life seems dark and dreary, and nothing is what you expected it to be.

Which makes it sound like I find adulthood depressing, which isn't true at all. I'm actually happier than I ever was as a child, but I've been through my share of horrid situations and dark nights of the soul to get to where I am now.


Polter-Cow - Dec 19, 2007 12:45:59 pm PST #9142 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The Magician's Nephew has always been my least favorite, and I hate that they've changed the series packaging so that TMN rather than TLTWATW is the first book. It's just not anything like as good an introduction to the series, IMHO.

I think that was one of my very favorites, actually. I have only faint memories of the series at this point, but that was the one where there were all these pools and rings that would take you to different worlds, right? That was cool.

I was completely oblivious to the Christian thing when I read the books. I've wanted to read them again to get a better sense of them.


Trudy Booth - Dec 19, 2007 12:46:24 pm PST #9143 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I was rolling my eyes at the end of Voyage of the Dawn Treader where Aslan said something like, "Of course I exist in your world. It was just better for you to meet me here first, where you could get to know me in this form, before you got older and went back to your world and got to know me there." I expect subtext to be slightly more sub than than that

I don't think he intends it as sub, does he? There is a quote somewhere where he basically says, "this isn't a metaphor, its an alternate reality".

And MUCH easier to get if a big lion is breathing all over you and filling you with strength and peace and the like.


Emily - Dec 19, 2007 12:46:56 pm PST #9144 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Anyone remember the link to the lavender jam recipe? I swear I'll bookmark it this time!


Hil R. - Dec 19, 2007 12:52:15 pm PST #9145 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I enjoyed The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe as a kid without getting any of the Christian stuff from it. (It wasn't one of my favorites, though -- the kids don't do anything! Stuff just happens to them.) I only started reading the others in the past year or two. (I got a paperback set of the whole series for my birthday from one of my friends when I was about 10 or so. It had TLTWATW as the first one, and The Magician's Nephew somewhere around the fourth. But now I can't find all of them, so I'm buying a few of the missing ones, and trying to figure out the right order is confusing.)


Polter-Cow - Dec 19, 2007 12:52:37 pm PST #9146 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

There is a quote somewhere where he basically says, "this isn't a metaphor, its an alternate reality".

Wikipedia to the rescue:

"What might Christ become like, if there really were a world like Narnia and He chose to be incarnate and die and rise again in that world as He actually has done in ours?' This is not allegory at all."


Trudy Booth - Dec 19, 2007 12:54:17 pm PST #9147 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Wikipedia from me too:

Lewis, an expert on the subject of allegory, maintained that the books were not allegory, and preferred to call the Christian aspects of them "suppositional". This is similar to what we would now call fictional parallel universes. As Lewis wrote in a letter to a Mrs Hook in December of 1958:

“If Aslan represented the immaterial Deity in the same way in which Giant Despair [a character in The Pilgrim's Progress] represents despair, he would be an allegorical figure. In reality, however, he is an invention giving an imaginary answer to the question, ‘What might Christ become like if there really were a world like Narnia, and He chose to be incarnate and die and rise again in that world as He actually has done in ours?’ This is not allegory at all” (Martindale & Root 1990).