You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Spike's Bitches 38: Well, This Is Just...Neat.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


amych - Nov 28, 2007 6:40:28 am PST #6095 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

{{{Tep}}}. The hugs are there even if the post disappears.


Dana - Nov 28, 2007 6:43:58 am PST #6096 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

{{{Tep}}} I don't think guys (or some guys) understand the huge amount of baggage that comes with that issue. There's so much cultural crap wrapped up in it that it's almost impossible to unpack.


Vortex - Nov 28, 2007 6:44:17 am PST #6097 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, sweetie, first of all, big hug. I know exactly what you're going through. Second, even the greatest guy (or girl) says stupid shit sometimes. Bad phrasing can be a killer.


Emily - Nov 28, 2007 6:45:06 am PST #6098 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Wow. I've been trying to think about what he must have been thinking, and give him the benefit of the doubt about it being concern for your health, etc., but there are about a thousand different ways to do that that don't involve the psychic repercussions of that question. Wow. Yeah, I got nothing. I'm sorry, Tep.


Steph L. - Nov 28, 2007 6:46:47 am PST #6099 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I don't think guys (or some guys) understand the huge amount of baggage that comes with that issue. There's so much cultural crap wrapped up in it that it's almost impossible to unpack.

And I get that, particularly when it comes to The Boy. In light of the fact that I've never ever known ANYONE who is so careful with my feelings (not in a walk-on-eggshells way; in a I-value-your-feelings-beyond-measure way), I *know* that he didn't know how I'd react.

He knew that I have huge issues about my weight, but it seems he didn't really grasp what I meant when I said "huge issues."

But still.

I feel like barfing, even talking about this.


Steph L. - Nov 28, 2007 6:49:02 am PST #6100 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I've been trying to think about what he must have been thinking, and give him the benefit of the doubt about it being concern for your health, etc., but there are about a thousand different ways to do that that don't involve the psychic repercussions of that question. Wow. Yeah, I got nothing.

Well, his ADD isn't an *excuse,* because a 40-year-old man can learn proper socialization. But it does explain it to a certain extent, because people with ADD can be really REALLY oblivious to emotional issues/cues.

But he never had been before. Or maybe I had always had secure enough psychic footing to talk through things with him when he was oblivious. I just have no psychic armor for the weight issue. I should, but I don't.


Jessica - Nov 28, 2007 6:49:18 am PST #6101 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh wow, Tep! I can't even imagine. What the hell was he thinking????


lisah - Nov 28, 2007 6:50:29 am PST #6102 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

Steph, a friend of mine went through this recently with her long-term boyfriend and came close to breaking up with him but they worked it out (after much groveling on his part). ... which doesn't provide any sort of answer for you but at least you know you're not alone.

Dudes are just dumbasses sometimes, I guess.

I mean you could ask him the same question. Not about weight but about something else you find attractive about him that you wouldn't if it went away.


Steph L. - Nov 28, 2007 6:52:39 am PST #6103 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I mean you could ask him the same question. Not about weight but about something else you find attractive about him that you wouldn't if it went away.

"Are you going to lose your hair?"

"Are you going to develop erectile dysfunction?"

"You don't know? Well, then I DON'T KNOW if I'm going to get bigger! Now hand me that Twinkie."


lisah - Nov 28, 2007 6:55:10 am PST #6104 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

"You don't know? Well, then I DON'T KNOW if I'm going to get bigger! Now hand me that Twinkie."

EXACTLY!