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Spike's Bitches 38: Well, This Is Just...Neat.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Daisy Jane - Nov 02, 2007 9:18:48 am PDT #2143 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I was implying, I suppose, that "open marriage" is a really vague term and seems to be code for "we can fuck around with whoever we want," rather than being actual polyamory.

I can see an open marriage being polyamory as I understand it. I can see people who have been together for a long time wanting new relationships.

Or you know, whatever. I figure adults should have whatever configuration suits them as long as everybody's chill with it and no one is being exploited.


Steph L. - Nov 02, 2007 9:20:15 am PDT #2144 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

IME "open marriage" is more likely to mean poly than swingers.

The poly folk I know don't use that phrase, but that (obviously) doesn't mean they're representative of the National Coalition of Poly Folk.

My experience is obviously only anecdotal, and I tend to come off as a great big blowhard with the Final Word about everything, and that is so very NOT true here.

Take everything I say with an enormous grain of salt.


Stephanie - Nov 02, 2007 9:20:22 am PDT #2145 of 10002
Trust my rage

I was implying, I suppose, that "open marriage" is a really vague term and seems to be code for "we can fuck around with whoever we want," rather than being actual polyamory.

Sorry for the vague term. I was thinking specifically about BitchPhd (whose URL is basically that) who has, what she calls, I think, an open marriage. From what I can tell, she has her husband, and at least one boyfriend whom she visits periodically. I've always thought of her and her husband as polyamorous, because in theory, they are both open to the other having relationships outside their primary one.

What confused me is that I don't think her husband is ever invovled with any of her boyfriends (as she calls them) and I don't think they ever even really have much contact with him.

So, what I was trying to figure out was whether poly means a "group" or whether it means each primary partner has secondary relationships.

But it sounds like it is a very encompassing term.

eta: and the conversation moved while I was typing. nevermind...


Steph L. - Nov 02, 2007 9:21:53 am PDT #2146 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So, what I was trying to figure out was whether poly means a "group" or whether it means each primary partner has secondary relationships.

It can be either. I know that much. (I think.)

An excellent book on this topic is The Ethical Slut, by, I think, Dossie Easton. It's really very good. Non-fiction.


Pix - Nov 02, 2007 9:22:21 am PDT #2147 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Or you know, whatever. I figure adults should have whatever configuration suits them as long as everybody's chill with it and no one is being exploited.
Yep, this.

I don't want to speak for laga in terms of what being poly means to her, but I do know her very well and can say that she truly 100% loves the people she loves--she just falls in love with more than one person at once. She is scrupulously honest with her partners and is one of the most generous souls I know. (Not that anyone is implying otherwise. Just wanted to say that about her.)


juliana - Nov 02, 2007 9:22:41 am PDT #2148 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

If my DH is in a bad mood or grumpy or overtired, I have to remember, that although I am concerned or worried or sympathetic, I am not in the same mood. Or let his mood change my mood.

This is me.


Daisy Jane - Nov 02, 2007 9:24:46 am PDT #2149 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Sorry for the vague term. I was thinking specifically about BitchPhd (whose URL is basically that) who has, what she calls, I think, an open marriage. From what I can tell, she has her husband, and at least one boyfriend whom she visits periodically. I've always thought of her and her husband as polyamorous, because in theory, they are both open to the other having relationships outside their primary one.

....I was about to start pulling a thread on what constitutes a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship and what is just having sex with someone else who I see sometimes, but, ah...no. I don't think I really get to decide that.

I'll have to check out that book Tep!


sj - Nov 02, 2007 9:25:01 am PDT #2150 of 10002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

If my DH is in a bad mood or grumpy or overtired, I have to remember, that although I am concerned or worried or sympathetic, I am not in the same mood. Or let his mood change my mood.

This is me too.


Daisy Jane - Nov 02, 2007 9:27:09 am PDT #2151 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

If my DH is in a bad mood or grumpy or overtired, I have to remember, that although I am concerned or worried or sympathetic, I am not in the same mood. Or let his mood change my mood.

This is me.

It's hard for me to remember that sometimes if he's all stompy and cursey- that makes me tense, even if it's not directed at me.

I have the same issue with my coworkers.


Stephanie - Nov 02, 2007 9:27:29 am PDT #2152 of 10002
Trust my rage

I don't think I really get to decide that.

Yeah, I was trying to share my thoughts but then I just decided that it was getting too...awkward, I guess. The lawyer in me likes concrete defiintions but the world doesn't work that way.

Off to a way boring meeting...