um, I think we are to understand they DID explore that.
Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.
Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.
This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]
le nubian - Oct 11, 2009 10:13:55 am PDT #3768 of 11842
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Vortex - Oct 11, 2009 10:14:36 am PDT #3769 of 11842
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I meant in a real relationship sense.
§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 10:45:19 am PDT #3770 of 11842
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The show barely treated her as more than a curiosity. Whereas I never got over the boss/subordinate squick with Grissom and Sara, which is somewhat ironic.
It's not an inherent problem for me, but she struck me as damaged goods with an authority problem looking for a daddy, and then just ew. The part where they supposedly FFed to equals just left me behind.
§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 10:53:06 am PDT #3771 of 11842
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Completely unrelatedly: Does anyone who likes both The Mentalist and Psych think the former is a rip of the latter?
I read an article that I think more successfully posited The Mentalist as more similar to Monk than to Psych than any of the Psych/Mentalist comparisons I've seen.
le nubian - Oct 11, 2009 11:00:13 am PDT #3772 of 11842
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I think of "The Mentalist" as more of a "House" ripoff than "Psych."
Vortex - Oct 11, 2009 11:00:48 am PDT #3773 of 11842
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
They've riffed on it a few times in promos for Psych. On the surface, I see the similarity - person with special observational skills uses those skills to see beyond the obvious to solve crimes. Only difference is that Jane admitted he was a fake, while Sean is still riding the wave. Oh, and Gus is a much better sidekick than Lisbbon. But maybe not Cho.
brenda m - Oct 11, 2009 11:12:31 am PDT #3774 of 11842
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Completely unrelatedly: Does anyone who likes both The Mentalist and Psych think the former is a rip of the latter?
I think the premise kind of is, but in execution they're different enough that I don't much link them.
§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 11:36:42 am PDT #3775 of 11842
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
For me, Jane admitting he's a fake psychic and him starting investigating versus Shawn claiming he's psychic is getting him investigating is less of a similarity than the whole driven by wife's murder/still wearing wedding ring, etc, thing with Monk.
I think of "The Mentalist" as more of a "House" ripoff than "Psych."
How so?
erin_obscure - Oct 11, 2009 11:44:30 am PDT #3776 of 11842
Occasionally I’m callous and strange
I'm pretty bummed about Southland getting cancelled. It was disturbing at times but very authentic.
le nubian - Oct 11, 2009 12:15:56 pm PDT #3777 of 11842
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
ita,
so, I think of "The Mentalist" is being about the alpha male having a negative opinion of most human beings and solving puzzles for/with his team.
This is "House" to me. They are set in different settings, but the misanthropy and self-hatred seems similar across both main characters.