Handsome brooding vampire guy has to swoop in all sensitive mouth and overhanging forehead. How 'bout leaving some scraps for the homely-looking fellows who don't turn evil when they get some?

Doyle ,'Life of the Party'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 10:53:06 am PDT #3771 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Completely unrelatedly: Does anyone who likes both The Mentalist and Psych think the former is a rip of the latter?

I read an article that I think more successfully posited The Mentalist as more similar to Monk than to Psych than any of the Psych/Mentalist comparisons I've seen.


le nubian - Oct 11, 2009 11:00:13 am PDT #3772 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think of "The Mentalist" as more of a "House" ripoff than "Psych."


Vortex - Oct 11, 2009 11:00:48 am PDT #3773 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

They've riffed on it a few times in promos for Psych. On the surface, I see the similarity - person with special observational skills uses those skills to see beyond the obvious to solve crimes. Only difference is that Jane admitted he was a fake, while Sean is still riding the wave. Oh, and Gus is a much better sidekick than Lisbbon. But maybe not Cho.


brenda m - Oct 11, 2009 11:12:31 am PDT #3774 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Completely unrelatedly: Does anyone who likes both The Mentalist and Psych think the former is a rip of the latter?

I think the premise kind of is, but in execution they're different enough that I don't much link them.


§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 11:36:42 am PDT #3775 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For me, Jane admitting he's a fake psychic and him starting investigating versus Shawn claiming he's psychic is getting him investigating is less of a similarity than the whole driven by wife's murder/still wearing wedding ring, etc, thing with Monk.

I think of "The Mentalist" as more of a "House" ripoff than "Psych."

How so?


erin_obscure - Oct 11, 2009 11:44:30 am PDT #3776 of 11831
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

I'm pretty bummed about Southland getting cancelled. It was disturbing at times but very authentic.


le nubian - Oct 11, 2009 12:15:56 pm PDT #3777 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

so, I think of "The Mentalist" is being about the alpha male having a negative opinion of most human beings and solving puzzles for/with his team.

This is "House" to me. They are set in different settings, but the misanthropy and self-hatred seems similar across both main characters.


§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 12:22:08 pm PDT #3778 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't see Jane anywhere near as misanthropic as House (witness his tenderness with Lisbon this week, for instance--I also think he helps people out of a sense of justice)--but I do see the self-hatred. However, on The Mentalist I see that stemming from the Red John trauma. On House is it just a thing, or is it tied up with his addiction issues?


Connie Neil - Oct 11, 2009 3:56:14 pm PDT #3779 of 11831
brillig

I don't think House had any great opinion of people even before the pain pills. I think he was just willing to ignore them more before his girlfriend went against his express wishes and left him crippled.


Juliebird - Oct 11, 2009 3:57:45 pm PDT #3780 of 11831
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Wasn't there an episode (the one where we find out that it was Cuddy that had ordered the surgery that removed the dead tissue from his leg) where we find out that he was a negative jerky bastard even before the pain and the addiction?