I meant in a real relationship sense.
Damn you, Bridget! Damn you to Hades! You broke my heart in a million pieces! You made me love you, and then you-- I SHAVED MY BEARD FOR YOU, DEVIL WOMAN!
Monty ,'Trash'
Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.
This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]
Vortex - Oct 11, 2009 10:14:36 am PDT #3769 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 10:45:19 am PDT #3770 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The show barely treated her as more than a curiosity. Whereas I never got over the boss/subordinate squick with Grissom and Sara, which is somewhat ironic.
It's not an inherent problem for me, but she struck me as damaged goods with an authority problem looking for a daddy, and then just ew. The part where they supposedly FFed to equals just left me behind.
§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 10:53:06 am PDT #3771 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Completely unrelatedly: Does anyone who likes both The Mentalist and Psych think the former is a rip of the latter?
I read an article that I think more successfully posited The Mentalist as more similar to Monk than to Psych than any of the Psych/Mentalist comparisons I've seen.
le nubian - Oct 11, 2009 11:00:13 am PDT #3772 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I think of "The Mentalist" as more of a "House" ripoff than "Psych."
Vortex - Oct 11, 2009 11:00:48 am PDT #3773 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
They've riffed on it a few times in promos for Psych. On the surface, I see the similarity - person with special observational skills uses those skills to see beyond the obvious to solve crimes. Only difference is that Jane admitted he was a fake, while Sean is still riding the wave. Oh, and Gus is a much better sidekick than Lisbbon. But maybe not Cho.
brenda m - Oct 11, 2009 11:12:31 am PDT #3774 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Completely unrelatedly: Does anyone who likes both The Mentalist and Psych think the former is a rip of the latter?
I think the premise kind of is, but in execution they're different enough that I don't much link them.
§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 11:36:42 am PDT #3775 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
For me, Jane admitting he's a fake psychic and him starting investigating versus Shawn claiming he's psychic is getting him investigating is less of a similarity than the whole driven by wife's murder/still wearing wedding ring, etc, thing with Monk.
I think of "The Mentalist" as more of a "House" ripoff than "Psych."
How so?
erin_obscure - Oct 11, 2009 11:44:30 am PDT #3776 of 11831
Occasionally I’m callous and strange
I'm pretty bummed about Southland getting cancelled. It was disturbing at times but very authentic.
le nubian - Oct 11, 2009 12:15:56 pm PDT #3777 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
ita,
so, I think of "The Mentalist" is being about the alpha male having a negative opinion of most human beings and solving puzzles for/with his team.
This is "House" to me. They are set in different settings, but the misanthropy and self-hatred seems similar across both main characters.
§ ita § - Oct 11, 2009 12:22:08 pm PDT #3778 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't see Jane anywhere near as misanthropic as House (witness his tenderness with Lisbon this week, for instance--I also think he helps people out of a sense of justice)--but I do see the self-hatred. However, on The Mentalist I see that stemming from the Red John trauma. On House is it just a thing, or is it tied up with his addiction issues?