JA does (did) smoke sometimes, I'm pretty sure. But a lot of people I know who smoke won't smoke in their cars, or inside the house. If they, you know, have the kind of self-control I don't.

It's not made magically better just because the girl doesn't remember it.

How do you think the show implied that it was "all better"?

It was treated as a tragedy for the wish guy - he gave up his true love, what a sacrifice. Did not look like any of the characters noticed that what he gave up on was raping the woman he had obsessed about. It was an "unhealthy relationship". It really did not seem to occur to anyone that it was worse than that.

Okay, my irl SPN nut friend S had the same qualms about the ending that you did, i.e., Dean should have been more traumatized, but I thought that there was nothing he said that denies that he didn't remember when he was first brought back and started remembering with those flashes.

Nice pickup on the "things I've seen" remark. I was wondering about things that he did and things that were done to him and whether they would address it. Good thinking that Castiel may have blunted the memories.

Of course, the other aspect of this is that as well as JA may act what he is given - quite often the arc stuff isn't executed well in terms of laying in things gradually.

JA does (did) smoke sometimes, I'm pretty sure.

really? that bums me out. not that i'll ever, ya know, have an opportunity to be that close to him. still...

I'm not sure where I read that. Maybe in fic, who knows. But I'm pretty sure he did, even if he doesn't anymore.

I smoke! DON'T YOU WANT TO KISS ME?! ::sobs::

sorry...no. i can't stand to be in a car with someone who's smoking. it makes my eyes burn and i feel like i can't breathe. my sister's a smoker, but she goes outside to smoke because she knows how i feel about it.

Did not look like any of the characters noticed that what he gave up on was raping the woman he had obsessed about. It was an "unhealthy relationship". It really did not seem to occur to anyone that it was worse than that.

Thank you, Gar. The show made the entire issue about Wes, and avoided dealing with the fact that he'd been raping Hope for a month. It wasn't "Oh dear God I've raped a woman, how awful for her!" -- it was "Oh, this makes me uncomfortable and now she's killing people." Even her desperation at the end was caused by the way Wes' wish had taken away her free will. The story was about Wes and his desires, and barely acknowledged the impact on Hope except in the way he noticed it.

Everyone else in the episode remembered what had happened while the wishes were active--except for Hope. Because if she had remembered it, the show would have had to deal with it. So they cheated, and gave her a mind-wipe.

I like Ted Raimi as much as anyone, but the proper response in this kind of situation is more like what we got in the Trio arc on Buffy, not this.

Everyone else in the episode remembered what had happened while the wishes were active--except for Hope.

Were there any other humans who were the subject of a wish? I think the people who MADE wishes remembered, but no one else was the subject of a wish.

but no one else was the subject of a wish.

::hands out graduate degree in handwavium mechanics::