Just something in my eye...
Castiel is a fierce fighting angel...who is going to be oddly touched (heh) by Dean dimunizing his name to a nickname, and will not blow Dean's hair and eyebrows off in wrath at the presumption.
Oh, yeah. There was this time I was pinned down by this guy that played left tackle for varsity... Well, at least he used to before he was a vampire... Anyway, he had this really, really thick neck, and all I had was a little, little Exact-O knife ... You're not loving this story.
Buffy ,'Beneath You'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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Beverly - Oct 11, 2008 9:00:18 am PDT #8647 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Theresa - Oct 11, 2008 9:02:33 am PDT #8648 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Ha!
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 11, 2008 11:09:05 am PDT #8649 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
There's a greater power at work than Castiel that would prevent that: producers' fear of fan reaction to a bald bullfrog look for Jensen Ackles.
Strix - Oct 11, 2008 11:56:21 am PDT #8650 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I've decided that I don't really care is Castiel is bad or good. I just want to see him shirtless in leather pants, kicking ass with a fiery sword.
It can be cousin to Micheal's fiery Eden-guarding sword, or a fiery bile-of-Hellfire sword. I don't care. I just want to see it.
(And if you think by "fiery sword" I mean PORN, you are SO right.)
Ailleann - Oct 11, 2008 11:57:38 am PDT #8651 of 10002
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Wow, Erin, I....
::goes to bunk::
Amy - Oct 11, 2008 12:01:17 pm PDT #8652 of 10002
Because books.
(And if you think by "fiery sword" I mean PORN, you are SO right.)
::as usual, loves Erin like burning::
I can't see Dean being in hell. Not anymore. I don't think even Kripke would sustain that kind of misdirect over four episodes. And I don't think Castiel has an evil agenda. Again, I think Kripke might be willing to paint him in shades of gray(ish), but I don't believe he's going to pull a Dallas-style surprise on us and have Castiel turn out to be Lucifer, or a demon, or whatever.
Not that Kripke doesn't have an imagintion, but I don't see it happening that way.
Also would like some shirtless Castiel, please. Any time. I'll wait.
Strix - Oct 11, 2008 12:12:10 pm PDT #8653 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I don't think Dean is still in hell. I do entertain the notion that his get-out-of-jail-free card is attached to some hidden strings.
It seems, in Judeo-Christian theology, that God and Lucifer work in a very rules-based system. If the Devil gets a soul, that soul is HIS and God does not willy-nilly decide to yank a soul that the devil won out of hell. IIRC, the only way souls already in hell were ever able to get out was when Jesus Messiahed-up and got all the good pagans outta there when he was riding the Resurrection coma-wave. And that took three days (and I always thought it was kinda a massive woobie retcon on the part of the NT writers, who couldn't stand the thought of their philosopher-heroes burning.)
So....why Dean W.? I mean, good guy, fights against evil. BUT in the larger picture, he really is NOT extraordinarily good. His appeal is based on being ordinarily, conflicted good.
So Kripke's either got (a) something really good to justify this (b) an ass-pull or (c) this is not your beautiful string-free cake.
Amy - Oct 11, 2008 12:18:08 pm PDT #8654 of 10002
Because books.
Oh,I don't necessarily think it's strong-free. I'm just, first, kind of taking at face value that the "work" God has for Dean mostly involves keeping a leash on Sam, and giving Castiel and his crew the inside track into what Sam's up to. Because if anyone is going to do that, it's going to be Dean.
That said, it's already a massive retcon for me that Castiel can pull Dean out of hell, restore his (yummy) body, send him back in time, etc., but can't simply follow Sam around and figure out what he's doing (if not what Azazel's plan was, which, honestly, he *could* have mostly figured out, since he witnessed everything Dean did in the Wayback Machine to the '70s).
And telling Dean he has to do this *work* while also admitting that if he can't, Castiel et al will, sort of indicates (to me) that maybe Dean has some kind of higher purpose in the scheme. But that's maybe (probably?) just wishful supposing on my part.
Also, the string could be as simple as having to kill Sam. Which is ... pretty stringy, since the last time Sam died, Dean couldn't bear it.
Strix - Oct 11, 2008 12:22:48 pm PDT #8655 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Yeah, that's the thing that dings the dong for me: why can't Castiel just saunter up to Sammy and lay down the law? The fact that he's using Dean as a go-betweem strikes me as hinky. BECAUSE HE'S SKETCHY. Hot, but he's up to something.
What that something is...dunno yet.
I can see Sam and Dead going down the Cain and Abel path or the yellow-crayon speech path here, possibly. Other than that, I don't know.
(My, having internet again is fun! I haven't line-read a show in a long time! )
Anne W. - Oct 11, 2008 12:33:05 pm PDT #8656 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
why can't Castiel just saunter up to Sammy and lay down the law?
I wonder if the taint of demon blood in Sam would make Castiel's presence harmful (or possibly lethal) to him. Maybe Dean is the only chance for Sam to be saved and for Azazel's game to be thrwarted. If the angels stepped in, then maybe death would be the only option.
Given how the show has recently emphasized the fact that possession victims can be saved under the right circumstances, I would hope that the side of good would prefer an "Everybody lives!" sort of victory to a scorched earth one.