I am a large, semi-muscular man. I can take it. Don't hide behind Mal 'cause you know he'll shoot it down for you. Tell me.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


SuziQ - May 16, 2008 9:50:20 am PDT #7447 of 10002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

It was car 54.

Nice.


Theresa - May 16, 2008 10:03:16 am PDT #7448 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

If Dean was seeing demons' true faces, was his "hallucination" of Sam's face at the beginning of the ep really a reveal of a demon within Sam struggling to come to the forefront?

See, that was my first thought when Dean said he could see the demons. That is going to be my guess. There is just to much building to it with Ruby saying, "your God given talent, well, not exactly God given"

fwiw i'm still a little bit broken about last night. i'm kind of feeling like a whole show marathon.

Yeah, I have post show blues too. Which is actually really good because it is honestly one of a handful of episodes that I've wanted to watch more than once this season. Right now my order of favorite season is going 2,1, and then 3 (with much love for the Ben episode, the Christmas episode,and then the finale).

Someone on my flist has posited that Dean is either in Purgatory or Limbo, rather than actual hell. The anteroom, as it were. The vestibule, the Green Room, from which he may be more easily retrieved than from Actual Hell.

I think they are right. Didn't the demon that trapped Dean for a time before Sam shot her, despite Dean's protests, talk with Dean about the "Devil" being as unknown as "God". There may not be a one true Hell, but rather closer to the whedonverse concepts of hell dimensions. He certainly looked like he was in a waiting room for a big frickin spider. They definitely have different departments what with the coup d'etat being attempted among the demon ranks.


tiggy - May 16, 2008 10:11:06 am PDT #7449 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Someone on my flist has posited that Dean is either in Purgatory or Limbo, rather than actual hell.

I agree. i mean, pretty much every demon that has held any kind of conversation with Dean has been gloating about friends waiting to meet him in hell and he was very much alone when he was shown. i definitely think hell will have a welcoming party(if he ever sees it).


Matt the Bruins fan - May 16, 2008 12:22:15 pm PDT #7450 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd imagine Hell is pretty solipsistic, with the surroundings and tortures being determined by the inhabitant's own fears and inner trauma. I don't think we can read much into that brief glimpse not matching up with any given person's visualization of the underworld.


Beverly - May 16, 2008 12:44:47 pm PDT #7451 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I hate to disagree, conflict-phobe that I am, but Sam's stretchy-face was exactly the same effect that Ethan saw in his wife's face, and the doctor saw in the hotel guy's face, when they were hearing the hellhounds. It *could* be Sam's demon nature surfacing, but I think it's just a halluncinatory effect of the deadline getting closer. Bobby did refer to it as a halluncination.


Beverly - May 16, 2008 12:47:25 pm PDT #7452 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Also, iTunes has the ep up.


Theresa - May 16, 2008 2:57:30 pm PDT #7453 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Bobby did refer to it as a halluncination.

True.

Love your new tag btw!


SailAweigh - May 16, 2008 3:22:36 pm PDT #7454 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I'm thinking Dean's in Hell. What's his biggest fear? Being alone, cut off from his family. And I'd say strung up in a spiderweb looking thing is pretty darn alone.


Juliebird - May 16, 2008 4:18:51 pm PDT #7455 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I keep flashing on finding Mulder strapped to that alien chair with his face all stretched out screaming for Scully.

Sorry, what? I shouldn't be giggling every time I see Dean in hell? Blame Chris Carter.

For some reason, I had thought that in the end, when The-Body-That-Was-Ruby's-Host say's "stop!", I thought that was Ruby, re-inhabiting her host-body. I thought maybe Lilith had been lying about Ruby being far far away and that she had merely temporarily smothered Ruby inside that body.

That was Lilith scared out of her wits and then fleeing the scene? Huh.

Oh, man, all the chin and lip wibbles going on in this ep are killing me!

It's weird, I kind knew that, if they did this final right, Dean would be dead, so his death didn't have the OMGWTF?! impact, and I think it was better (storytelling-wise) for that. We've had the wailing and gnashing of teeth. This ep had a sort of inevitable impending doom that really played well in it's structure and pacing. And so it got to be rid of the usual tropes involved in the "possibility" of a major character's death. Up to and including the ass-pully save at the eleventh hour.


Polter-Cow - May 16, 2008 4:23:48 pm PDT #7456 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

For some reason, I had thought that in the end, when The-Body-That-Was-Ruby's-Host say's "stop!", I thought that was Ruby, re-inhabiting her host-body. I thought maybe Lilith had been lying about Ruby being far far away and that she had merely temporarily smothered Ruby inside that body.

That's the read I had too.

That was Lilith scared out of her wits and then fleeing the scene? Huh.

See, I would have expected Lilith to look different than just black smoke. Although I guess she's supposed to be a regular demon. Or something. We don't really know what her damn deal is.