I'm thinking "bitches" + fighting was a pretty heavy anvil of Dean doesn't know anything about kids.
Yeah, and we got the fighting clue from Lisa. But she didn't hear the bitches exchange, and... if it had been a word we hadn't heard on the show, I'd be more willing to cut the writers some slack. But it's a word Dean uses as an epithet to cut other men down. Because of the female associations. It makes both Dean and Ben skeevy.
I'm still not reading it as deliberately/intentionally used *because* of the female associations. I'm reading it as being used with no thought even given to the female associations.
ETA, and Suela, I know you're not the only one who it pinged like that, which makes me wish they'd used "babies" or "wimps" or something instead.
I'm reading it as being used with no thought even given to the female associations.
Likely, yes. Except the reason it's an epithet when used to describe men is because of the female associations.
Sigh.
My reading is the same as Plei's.
Ah. I see your point.
Likely, yes. Except the reason it's an epithet when used to describe men is because of the female associations.
Yeah, and I suspect the writers didn't even think about that. (see my edit)
Your point on "bitches" is well taken. It is not just the Supernatural writers who did not think enough about that.
Your point on "bitches" is well taken. It is not just the Supernatural writers who did not think enough about that.
And in this particular instance, the episode was written by Sera Gamble. So either she's tone-deaf to that particular inflection, or it's endemic to the show as a whole.
I don't actually get the impression that Sera is writing from a more feminist viewpoint than the male writers. Aside from wanting to get the guys naked, anyway.
I would think that would be the male writers' goal as well. At least I like to dream it is.