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Jayne: Yeah, that was some pretty risky sittin' you did there. Wash: That's right, of course, 'cause they wouldn't arrest me if we got boarded, I'm just the pilot. I can always say I was flying the ship by accident.

'Serenity'

Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business

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P.M. Marc - Oct 13, 2007 7:45:29 pm PDT #3439 of 10002

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm still not reading it as deliberately/intentionally used *because* of the female associations. I'm reading it as being used with no thought even given to the female associations.

ETA, and Suela, I know you're not the only one who it pinged like that, which makes me wish they'd used "babies" or "wimps" or something instead.

Consuela - Oct 13, 2007 7:46:35 pm PDT #3440 of 10002

We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm reading it as being used with no thought even given to the female associations.

Likely, yes. Except the reason it's an epithet when used to describe men is because of the female associations.

Sigh.

Beverly - Oct 13, 2007 7:47:29 pm PDT #3441 of 10002

Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

My reading is the same as Plei's.

Ah. I see your point.

P.M. Marc - Oct 13, 2007 7:49:35 pm PDT #3442 of 10002

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Likely, yes. Except the reason it's an epithet when used to describe men is because of the female associations.

Yeah, and I suspect the writers didn't even think about that. (see my edit)

Cass - Oct 13, 2007 8:11:26 pm PDT #3443 of 10002

Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

and I suspect the writers didn't even think about that.

I suspect this a lot.

Typo Boy - Oct 13, 2007 8:29:56 pm PDT #3444 of 10002

Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Your point on "bitches" is well taken. It is not just the Supernatural writers who did not think enough about that.

Morgana - Oct 14, 2007 2:31:09 pm PDT #3445 of 10002

"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Your point on "bitches" is well taken. It is not just the Supernatural writers who did not think enough about that.

And in this particular instance, the episode was written by Sera Gamble. So either she's tone-deaf to that particular inflection, or it's endemic to the show as a whole.

Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 14, 2007 3:08:13 pm PDT #3446 of 10002

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't actually get the impression that Sera is writing from a more feminist viewpoint than the male writers. Aside from wanting to get the guys naked, anyway.

Theresa - Oct 14, 2007 5:43:04 pm PDT #3447 of 10002

"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I would think that would be the male writers' goal as well. At least I like to dream it is.

juliana - Oct 16, 2007 7:39:35 am PDT #3448 of 10002

I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Re color choices in this ep - everyone should read this meta (and its followup) on Color Associations and their role in SPN's visual language. It's pretty much made of awesome and dead-on.

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