Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Cass - Sep 13, 2007 6:03:06 pm PDT #2589 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I think her lemming dive into martyrdom may be speeded by the belief that she's already killed people.
I just wish they'd let her say any of that instead of talking about the future and what might happen. Because the guilt of what she'd already done is far more plausible for me.


Beverly - Sep 13, 2007 6:10:10 pm PDT #2590 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

But at that point in the season arc, she was Sam's avatar, so the lines she was speaking were what we assumed Sam was thinking.

I remember at the time being not so much sad for Madison or Sam, but being appalled and terribly sympathetic for Dean and what he was looking at having to do to or for Sam if things went bad. And also, feeling like, for the first time, maybe Sam understood what he'd asked Dean to do for him in Playthings. It's a completely different perspective from here, I think.


Consuela - Sep 13, 2007 6:11:44 pm PDT #2591 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yup. I have issues with "Heart". Especially since my one thought about it--that they were trying to get us to question Winchester black-and-white morality, what with "Heart" and "Croatoan"--didn't pan out, so I'm left going, WTF?

And... well, not to rain on the parade, but can we please not be down on the casting spoilers? There's an awful lot of not-very-veiled misogyny out in the rest of fandom about the casting spoilers, and frankly I'm a bit surprised to see people complaining about them here as well.

For my part, I think it could be interesting, not to mention the fact that the Js kind of need a break, given that they're in nearly every scene of the show, and that has to be exhausting.

Just a thought, and I in no way mean to imply that anyone here is being misogynistic. Y'all are, of course, free to ignore me or tell me to shut my cakehole.


Beverly - Sep 13, 2007 6:17:17 pm PDT #2592 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Pls to not be shutting cakehole, Consuela. As a guilty party I'm a bit appalled at myself.

Not long ago I was urging others with the same words you're using. It was the "B" word, and the oh-so-typical CW PR that got my back up about the sitch. I will attempt to keep an open mind.

You won't mind the silent stinkeye, though, till I know for sure?


Ailleann - Sep 13, 2007 6:17:18 pm PDT #2593 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Whitefont: I definitely agree that it could be interesting, and I'm sporting my "In Kripke We Trust" button. But I also don't want my angsty wonderful brothers-against-the-world story to get filled up with gratuitous eye candy just for the sake of appealing to a demographic. I'm definitely in favor of female characters with agency.


Cass - Sep 13, 2007 6:17:40 pm PDT #2594 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I don't even know the casting spoilers. And am going to try and keep it that way. Though I am guessing they are a doozy from the blackfont around the (thank you!) whitefont.

But at that point in the season arc, she was Sam's avatar, so the lines she was speaking were what we assumed Sam was thinking.
I have the same issue with Sam though. He killed other hunters in BUaBS. He should be more guilty about that - at this point in canon - and not the stressing about what he might do in the future at this point.


Ailleann - Sep 13, 2007 6:19:39 pm PDT #2595 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

He killed other hunters in BUaBS.

He didn't, Meg did. I think he has to have let some of that go, because otherwise he's gotta live with the "I almost beat my own brother to death."

Sam has yet to slide down the rabbit hole of his own accord at this point, like Max or Andy's brother what's-his-name.


Beverly - Sep 13, 2007 6:21:16 pm PDT #2596 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Also, let me at this juncture once again tout 'Suela's wonderful Heart coda: Working Theory.


Beverly - Sep 13, 2007 6:22:24 pm PDT #2597 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Andy's brother what's-his-name.

Anson Weems.


Ailleann - Sep 13, 2007 6:24:43 pm PDT #2598 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

(Aww, my subtle YED reference slid under the radar.)

Man, Simon Says is an episode that gets better every time I watch it. I love any juxtaposition of siblings (brothers especially) against our boys.