Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job
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Allyson, to be clear, I was only thinking about deleting my bureau posts, and only then, because they were only ever meant for you all, not for all the tubes.
I don't know. If Gus would come back here for a second, admit what he did and apologize, I might champion (ptui) him.
As it stands right now? I HATE what he did to us (and me, because... and) us. My ugly bits want him to hang. My principled bits want to let it go.
er...
Not because I think what he did was okay. It's because I don't want to be judged on my worst sins. I don't want you all to know my worst sins. I acknowledge that I've SUCKED beyond the telling of it, in so many areas of my life, and so when someone else sucks, I sort of want to let it go.
What Gus/Guy Straley/kimi/Fast Eddie/Janitor did to us? It sucked and still sucks. I WANT a lot out of that, but when I distill it, I just want the suck to stop and the love to prevail.
Jesus. No one actually died. We got trolled.
I just want the suck to stop and the love to prevail.
Aww, I think the love has prevailed. We're all still here, after all. Doing our thing, having a F2F, cheering on ita and Ginger, wishing Hec & JZ happy birthday, sending around the box of nail polish, sharing our book reviews & sending ita photos for Provocateuse. Gus caused some upset, and there is lingering indigestion, but we kept on, and he can't harm us any more.
My only real concern here (setting aside my aforementioned malice) is that he not cause the same kind of upset--or worse--to another community.
But I also think going to TVT is a bad idea. I do think maybe just putting it in the FAQ is the thing to do. So if the question ever comes up, we can say, "Here: this is what we know about Gus, and why we don't think you should trust him."
Well, that's sort of my point. He did no harm, other than emotional harm at his exit.
eta: the above was a response to Allyson, not Consuela.
I wasn't suggesting* going to TVT. I was suggesting contacting The Mary Sue (or whatever media outlet) via email or other private means. I don't know if other people had been thinking of going to them, but that was never my intention, at all**.
* "suggesting" isn't quite the right word. "Bringing forward the idea of"
** Obvious disclaimer that the person who starts the conversation doesn't get to define the terms of it for the entirety of it's existence. Just clarifying.
I'm sorry, I know people are pissed about it, but all that happened really is that we got trolled by the guy that now runs TV Tropes. No one here is surprised that he's a loser who continues to act like a dick.
I whole-heartedly agree, Allyson, but I think that's why I wish we'd let it go. He came. He trolled. We conquered. That we didn't buy an OxFam goat is enough for me. I just didn't want people breaking their budgets on his behalf, when I always knew he was a faker.
Oh, I suppose I forgot to say this earlier, but if the author of that Mary Sue post is who I think she is...I am not sure we want her on our side.
DebetEsse, are you asking for a board consensus to write to the Mary Sue on behalf of Buffistas?
If you want to email on your own and say, "I was there when this shit happened," well, that's your own experience and you can do with it as you please.
I'm just not sure what you expect the Mary Sue will do with it. If they publish your email, we'll either get a shitstorm of weirdos, or we won't.
I'm trying to imagine what they'd do with, "FYI, Fast Eddie posted as his "dead friend" "Gus" at Buffistas. He's actually one of those weird Munchausen's by Internet people and pseudicided. He was a weird jackhole before TV Tropes, so none of this shit is surprising."