I'm sorry, I know people are pissed about it, but all that happened really is that we got trolled by the guy that now runs TV Tropes. No one here is surprised that he's a loser who continues to act like a dick.

I whole-heartedly agree, Allyson, but I think that's why I wish we'd let it go. He came. He trolled. We conquered. That we didn't buy an OxFam goat is enough for me. I just didn't want people breaking their budgets on his behalf, when I always knew he was a faker.

Oh, I suppose I forgot to say this earlier, but if the author of that Mary Sue post is who I think she is...I am not sure we want her on our side.

DebetEsse, are you asking for a board consensus to write to the Mary Sue on behalf of Buffistas?

If you want to email on your own and say, "I was there when this shit happened," well, that's your own experience and you can do with it as you please.

I'm just not sure what you expect the Mary Sue will do with it. If they publish your email, we'll either get a shitstorm of weirdos, or we won't.

I'm trying to imagine what they'd do with, "FYI, Fast Eddie posted as his "dead friend" "Gus" at Buffistas. He's actually one of those weird Munchausen's by Internet people and pseudicided. He was a weird jackhole before TV Tropes, so none of this shit is surprising."

I think Debet felt that this was a collective experience and she didn't want to take our story outside of our home without at least taking an inventory of how the group would feel about it.

My feelings are largely Allyson's. But then, I was never greatly invested in him in the first place. I don't think there's much to gain in going public with our story. I don't really think it'll be received the way we think of it, by people without the emotional investment this board had.

I guess that's what I'm confused about, Cindy. DebetEsse isn't "we." She doesn't need our permission to out him or tell the story.

If she's thinking of how it would affect the humans here in terms of being inundated with trolls, then that's pretty courteous.

Allyson, I don't think a board consensus is likely to happen, and I don't see any good coming of taking a vote. It's entirely possible that the moment in the news cycle has passed, anyway.

I very much felt the impulse to write on my own behalf, but I didn't want to do that without at least consulting the group, since I didn't feel comfortable saying, "You can use this" on my own authority, and--you're right--it would have been useless, otherwise.

Had I emailed them, I think it might have been a data point in the second article they posted, but, as I said, I get the feeling that the news cycle has moved on, unless something else new comes up.

eta: I was drafting this while other people were posting! Aims got it in one, and thank you, Allyson.

but if the author of that Mary Sue post is who I think she is...I am not sure we want her on our side.

Well now I'm all curious. Not that I know anything about anyone at Mary Sue.

I guess that's what I'm confused about, Cindy. DebetEsse isn't "we." She doesn't need our permission to out him or tell the story.

Absolutely she can. And Debet, you should, if that's what your conscience is telling you to do, and if you think it will do more good than harm.

Here's the thing: If I wanted to expose Gus's actions to the MarySue, etc., well, I'd link back to the death announcement and the ensuing bureau discussion. Along with tommyrot's, my posts contained the data that drove the discussion. I don't really want that level of involvement in this. I knew they were public when I posted them, but I wrote them at a time when few people other than us would care. That's changed. And I don't want that level of involvement in outing this person over five year old sins that did nothing worse than hurt our feelings.