Now we're saving a vampire from vampires. I got two words for that -- Nuh and uh.

Gunn ,'Underneath'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


quester - Jul 20, 2008 2:35:23 pm PDT #977 of 11998
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I've been watching the Mad Men marathon all day, and I need someone to explain to me how I am supposed to appreciate this. It is so bleak and negative and I don't like any of the characters. What am I missing?

Am I supposed to like Don?


Tom Scola - Jul 20, 2008 3:33:55 pm PDT #978 of 11998
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I had a similar reaction, quester.


sj - Jul 20, 2008 3:41:46 pm PDT #979 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

For me it's not so much about ''liking'' the characters, but I enjoy how fucked up the whole thing is, and I think the writing is sharp.


SailAweigh - Jul 20, 2008 3:44:34 pm PDT #980 of 11998
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I forgot that was on today, no wonder my TiVo has had red-eye all day.

I Netflixed Mad Men a while ago and just got the first disc on Friday, so I've watched the first three episodes. I know what you guys mean, no one in this show is exactly likable. Yet, I want to keep watching. I think because the story is compelling, even if the people are all pretty much asshats.


megan walker - Jul 20, 2008 3:47:00 pm PDT #981 of 11998
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I know what you guys mean, no one in this show is exactly likable. Yet, I want to keep watching. I think because the story is compelling, even if the people are all pretty much asshats.

This describes every drama I've ever seen on HBO.


DavidS - Jul 20, 2008 4:34:53 pm PDT #982 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

and I don't like any of the characters.

You don't like Peggy? Or Joan? Or Don's bohemian girlfriend on the side?

I like that the characters are flawed and interesting. You understand everybody's motives. You see the flaws of the era and the sexist, racist, anti-semitic, homophobic culture. Nobody's completely irredeemable. Nobody's untainted.

It's very sharply written and it looks beautiful, and the stories were very compelling.


quester - Jul 20, 2008 4:56:15 pm PDT #983 of 11998
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I find it depressing and just makes me thank Gloria Stienem and Betty Friedan!


DavidS - Jul 20, 2008 5:43:06 pm PDT #984 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I find it depressing and just makes me thank Gloria Stienem and Betty Friedan!

I think you're supposed to think of them. I really like that they don't soft peddle (so to speak) an idealized version of the era. It allows them to address those issues honestly, and - of course - there are clear resonances with today.


le nubian - Jul 20, 2008 5:46:49 pm PDT #985 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

quester,

I had a really hard time with MM for the first half or so of the series. The misogyny is what really got me. I just didn't find it at all enjoyable. In fact, I was pretty depressed. I told my beau, "you have until a Black cleaning lady shows up and then I'm out."

However, when Draper's mystery started getting deeper and some of the men's lives became obviously miserable, that's when I started become more interested.


erikaj - Jul 20, 2008 6:18:52 pm PDT #986 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

I did eventually come to like Don, but he doesn't make it easy all the time. And I like Peggy a lot. And poor messed up Betty(not always. Sometimes she thinks she's all that.) I think Joan is sexy.