Willow: It feels like we're going around in circles. Xander: Our circles are going around in circles. We got dizzy circles here.

'Sleeper'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Jesse - Oct 19, 2007 7:08:43 pm PDT #694 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, except for the part where I kept waiting for Betty to kill herself.


Jon B. - Oct 20, 2007 10:43:55 am PDT #695 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Damages: So, the other attorney is also working for Frobisher? Or is he working for Patty and hopes to get the tape back w/o freeing Ellen.

It could be a fake out and they're just keeping an eye on Ellen to protect her. The show did that fake out once already.


Wolfram - Oct 24, 2007 4:48:19 am PDT #696 of 11998
Visilurking

No comments on Damages? I'm still processing the ending and where it looks like they're going next season. First impression is that I liked the way they went, but I wish they would have staggered the reveals a little more and not squeezed most of them in this week.


le nubian - Oct 24, 2007 4:57:27 am PDT #697 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I agree with you, Wolfram. The thing that really got up my nose is (SPOILER ALERT)...

Patty ordering a hit on Ellen. Yes, I understand why Patty did it, but it doesn't really make sense to me that Patty Hewes would take this action. This seems a little reckless and unnecessary. Seems to be a big step to take without knowing for sure you'd need to take it.


Wolfram - Oct 24, 2007 5:03:53 am PDT #698 of 11998
Visilurking

It surprised me too, but until that reveal, I could not understand why Patty lost her shit at the beachhouse and then at the cemetery. Even when we find out she lost a child at birth, you don't expect to see that kind of emotion over a 35 year old stillbirth - at least not from Patty.* Only after you realize that she's transfered her feelings to Ellen does her emotional outburst make sense.

As to why she ordered the hit - I get the feeling that it's not the first one she's ordered. She clearly has a wetwork network in place with Uncle Pete and those strange not!investigators who keep popping up everywhere. Ellen was a loose end on the Ray Fisk matter, and when she started expressing regret Patty realized it was just a matter of time before Ellen broke and ratted Patty out.

  • Obviously stillbirths are very tragic, and I don't mean to minimize their impact and trauma on folks who have endured such a tragedy. But in the context of the character of Patty, it seemed out of balance.


brenda m - Oct 24, 2007 5:10:59 am PDT #699 of 11998
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I didn't pick up on it at first, but near the end when they really juxtaposed Ellen's statement that she regretted what they did with Patty's offering to let her stay over - yeah, I kind of get it. We've already seen that Ellen is purely a tool for Patty. And then suddenly she's a threat, and at a time when Patty is actually kind of off balance from Ray's suicide.

What didn't really ring true to me was the whole baby reveal and what I assume is supposed to be Patty identifying Ellen with the baby. It seemed kind of left field, and not particularly necessary. One of the few things that sort of screamed "plot device" to me.

What I did like was how the 'hiding place' made Ellen's picking up the murder weapon something more than stupid tv plot device.


le nubian - Oct 24, 2007 5:19:49 am PDT #700 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

As to why she ordered the hit - I get the feeling that it's not the first one she's ordered. She clearly has a wetwork network in place with Uncle Pete and those strange not!investigators who keep popping up everywhere. Ellen was a loose end on the Ray Fisk matter, and when she started expressing regret Patty realized it was just a matter of time before Ellen broke and ratted Patty out.

Would Ellen have broke? Ellen is just as complicit (if not more so) in Fiske's suicide. Also, she compromised the investigation of the murder of Moore - directly. It just seems to me that Patty overplayed her hand. WAY.


le nubian - Oct 24, 2007 5:23:44 am PDT #701 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

What I did like was how the 'hiding place' made Ellen's picking up the murder weapon something more than stupid tv plot device.

Agreed!


Wolfram - Nov 08, 2007 10:42:19 am PST #702 of 11998
Visilurking

Anybody watching Nip/Tuck?


sumi - Nov 08, 2007 10:48:02 am PST #703 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Kind of.

Christian is a sad, sad individual.

And even more orange than before!