Damages: So, the other attorney is also working for Frobisher? Or is he working for Patty and hopes to get the tape back w/o freeing Ellen.

It could be a fake out and they're just keeping an eye on Ellen to protect her. The show did that fake out once already.

No comments on Damages? I'm still processing the ending and where it looks like they're going next season. First impression is that I liked the way they went, but I wish they would have staggered the reveals a little more and not squeezed most of them in this week.

I agree with you, Wolfram. The thing that really got up my nose is (SPOILER ALERT)...

Patty ordering a hit on Ellen. Yes, I understand why Patty did it, but it doesn't really make sense to me that Patty Hewes would take this action. This seems a little reckless and unnecessary. Seems to be a big step to take without knowing for sure you'd need to take it.

It surprised me too, but until that reveal, I could not understand why Patty lost her shit at the beachhouse and then at the cemetery. Even when we find out she lost a child at birth, you don't expect to see that kind of emotion over a 35 year old stillbirth - at least not from Patty.* Only after you realize that she's transfered her feelings to Ellen does her emotional outburst make sense.

As to why she ordered the hit - I get the feeling that it's not the first one she's ordered. She clearly has a wetwork network in place with Uncle Pete and those strange not!investigators who keep popping up everywhere. Ellen was a loose end on the Ray Fisk matter, and when she started expressing regret Patty realized it was just a matter of time before Ellen broke and ratted Patty out.

• Obviously stillbirths are very tragic, and I don't mean to minimize their impact and trauma on folks who have endured such a tragedy. But in the context of the character of Patty, it seemed out of balance.

I didn't pick up on it at first, but near the end when they really juxtaposed Ellen's statement that she regretted what they did with Patty's offering to let her stay over - yeah, I kind of get it. We've already seen that Ellen is purely a tool for Patty. And then suddenly she's a threat, and at a time when Patty is actually kind of off balance from Ray's suicide.

What didn't really ring true to me was the whole baby reveal and what I assume is supposed to be Patty identifying Ellen with the baby. It seemed kind of left field, and not particularly necessary. One of the few things that sort of screamed "plot device" to me.

What I did like was how the 'hiding place' made Ellen's picking up the murder weapon something more than stupid tv plot device.

As to why she ordered the hit - I get the feeling that it's not the first one she's ordered. She clearly has a wetwork network in place with Uncle Pete and those strange not!investigators who keep popping up everywhere. Ellen was a loose end on the Ray Fisk matter, and when she started expressing regret Patty realized it was just a matter of time before Ellen broke and ratted Patty out.

Would Ellen have broke? Ellen is just as complicit (if not more so) in Fiske's suicide. Also, she compromised the investigation of the murder of Moore - directly. It just seems to me that Patty overplayed her hand. WAY.

What I did like was how the 'hiding place' made Ellen's picking up the murder weapon something more than stupid tv plot device.

Agreed!

Anybody watching Nip/Tuck?

Kind of.

Christian is a sad, sad individual.

And even more orange than before!

He is sad. I'm just not sure how I feel about the show. In some ways it feels fresh because of the locale and their new challenges to build the practice. But in other ways, it feels like the story-lines are retreads and every character's behavior is predictable and boring.

Also there's nothing fresh about another boob job, tummy tuck, face lift etc. Are they out of shocking surgeries?

However, I find the show-within-a-show really amusing. "Nobody has a tie? Why did this guy have to bleed out on casual Friday?"