somehow it didn't ring the damsel in distress bells with me.

That actually impressed me--there was so much potential for gender fail there, considering that they had a strong woman put in a position of weakness solely because of the men's business, but they managed to skate the line fairly well.

They kept her angry while she was unjustly done by, and had Peter react with a similar (just more violent) anger. Any rescue that happened was more by Neal, and that was much later.

I have read comments about Kate being fridged, but I honestly dislike her so much that I'm relieved at the idea of her enforced absence next season, so I don't much care. Her character on the show was a bigger fail, IMO.

I want them to fridge the character of Kate. I wouldn't care if the character were Ken. It's a stupid character and I want that character gone bye-bye.

Or a time machine and written better.

But I'm realistic in my ... fiction?

El wasn't in physical peril, she stood up for herself, and what Neal did was couched as amends and a parting gift. No damsel, yo.

I came to WC fairly late in the season, so I didn't have the full Kate experience, but I had enough to be annoyed. If she's going to be no more than a cipher, well, she can do that dead.

Just read the Christian Kane article.

If it wasn’t in my contract that [LEVERAGE executive producer] Dean [Devlin] had Eliot Spencer’s tear ducts sautered, I’d probably cry a little bit I’m so fortunate now.

sautered?

iF Magazine, I think you meant soldered. ::cringe::

Maybe he meant sauteed?

::runs::

Or sutured?

Ha! Whatever's going on with Eliot's tear ducts, it sounds unpleasant.

Watching the WC finale again, because I can't help myself.

I don't think we're supposed to like Kate. It's canon that she's Neal's Achilles' heel. He may be smart, charming, lovely, can forge bonds and paintings, sculpt (half-naked, yay!), escape from a supermax prison, crack a safe, and so on, but Peter can always see through his lies, and he always makes stupid decisions when it comes to Kate.

Moz: "Happily ever after isn't for guys like us."

Peter: "You're fooling yourself if you think Kate's on your side." (Also Kate pulled a gun on Peter! Neal hates guns. That's a significant reveal, when they go to such great pains to show how much Neal hates guns and violence.)

Alex: "I hope that Kate's still the same girl you think she is."

El: "I think there's a difference between loving an idea of someone and actually loving who they really are."

What's interesting is that if she's actually dead, they've pretty much eliminated his main weakness, other than Peter.

Yeah, i read Kate fridged comments but I just didn't care. In the pilot, which i rewatched yesterday, Neal talks convincingly about his love for Kate. Bt as the season went on, I felt like she did nothng to ever show that she still loved him and thus Neal's devotion to her got both annoying and stupid. I suppose she was his blindspot.

As to the LJ post linked to above, I get the "no stupid lies/misunderstandings" thing. This is one of the reasons I dislike so many sitcoms-they are based on stupid misunderstandings.

But I do think the writer might be right about the no lies thing. I say this because I saw a copy of a script page in which Neal misleads Peter with the truth. There was a not on the script about checking to make sure Neal wasn't lying and the way it was written made me think that they have written on the wall intheir writer's room a giant "Neal never lies to Peter."

Just off the top of my head, Neal said he was going to a champagne brunch of Junes's. He lies to Peter.