Kaylee: Captain seem a little funny to you at breakfast this morning? Wash: Come on, Kaylee. We all know I'm the funny one.

'Heart Of Gold'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

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Zenkitty - Mar 12, 2010 6:44:54 pm PST #4640 of 11999
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Finally saw the WC finale. Whew! Naked Neal in the pool, naked Neal sculpting, naked Neal touching the little naked man statue, El getting mad, Peter punching Fowler for El, long looks of angst-ridden love, Neal's goodbye gift to El, poor Moz, please let that bitch Kate be really dead, and lord lord Peter RAN to the airport to say goodbye to Neal and Neal CRIED over leaving him, lord. What would Neal have done if the choice hadn't been taken away? I think he would have left and regretted it forever. Especially after he found out that Kate didn't love him. Well, except for that he'd've been dead. No slashier show has ever aired.

Pffft. Gus and Shawn are brotherly. These two would be Doing It if Peter weren't married.

Truth. They could be doing it anyway; Elizabeth would so be in. What other wife would accept her husband's pet criminal and their obsession with each other as a totally normal part of their relationship? *less than 3* OT3!


§ ita § - Mar 12, 2010 6:51:46 pm PST #4641 of 11999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Accept? Hell, El was pushing Peter towards Neal at the start. That's why I didn't see the OT3 in the start--I saw her as an eager voyeuse, though.


Lee - Mar 12, 2010 6:52:37 pm PST #4642 of 11999
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Accept? Hell, El was pushing Peter towards El at the start.

Towards Neal?


§ ita § - Mar 12, 2010 6:55:49 pm PST #4643 of 11999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Der. Yes. Editing.


Zenkitty - Mar 12, 2010 7:04:47 pm PST #4644 of 11999
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

That's because El wants Neal too! And she knows she can't get him unless Peter has him first/too. El has Plans for them, oh yes she does.


Liese S. - Mar 12, 2010 7:15:36 pm PST #4645 of 11999
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Well, there was that bit where Peter came home to find Neal ensconced comfortably in his house with El. I mean, El definitely likes Neal.

But somehow I don't know that I see them actually going with the OT3. I see them playing the tension.

Which is why I think Neal was getting on that plane. It was all the shapes of traditional relationships that he thought he had to revert to. He needed Kate for that perceived normal happiness, and he wouldn't step between Peter and El without blessing, leaving them to their perceived normal happiness. And I don't see that they've actually gone there yet.

What I do love about El is how secure she is in herself, which is again why the finale was so difficult, with them going after her, with her being vulnerable because of them. And Peter and Neal both coming to her defense in their own ways. But somehow it didn't ring the damsel in distress bells with me. Just that she means so much to them, and if you're going to hurt them, of course you're going to go through her.


Lee - Mar 12, 2010 7:20:41 pm PST #4646 of 11999
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

somehow it didn't ring the damsel in distress bells with me.

That actually impressed me--there was so much potential for gender fail there, considering that they had a strong woman put in a position of weakness solely because of the men's business, but they managed to skate the line fairly well.


§ ita § - Mar 12, 2010 7:27:52 pm PST #4647 of 11999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They kept her angry while she was unjustly done by, and had Peter react with a similar (just more violent) anger. Any rescue that happened was more by Neal, and that was much later.

I have read comments about Kate being fridged, but I honestly dislike her so much that I'm relieved at the idea of her enforced absence next season, so I don't much care. Her character on the show was a bigger fail, IMO.


Cass - Mar 12, 2010 8:07:52 pm PST #4648 of 11999
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I want them to fridge the character of Kate. I wouldn't care if the character were Ken. It's a stupid character and I want that character gone bye-bye.

Or a time machine and written better.

But I'm realistic in my ... fiction?


smonster - Mar 13, 2010 12:23:21 am PST #4649 of 11999
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

El wasn't in physical peril, she stood up for herself, and what Neal did was couched as amends and a parting gift. No damsel, yo.

I came to WC fairly late in the season, so I didn't have the full Kate experience, but I had enough to be annoyed. If she's going to be no more than a cipher, well, she can do that dead.