I actually thought that promo shot was some clever fan photoshopping, and then I saw a large version of it and was all "nuh-uh!"
Jayne ,'Out Of Gas'
Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...
To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])
Speaking of White Collar images, the header image of this journal is an interesting commentary on the Peter/Neal relationship. Neal's Peter's shadow? Peter is Neal's public face?
That's another one I like. When I see that I think "Peter and Neal are ONE"
[link] This lj header is one of several similar photos, and there's a better one that has Peter framed more deliberately in the... frame. That one says to me that Peter is the priceless work of art that Neal will covet and eventually steal.
Kind of a nifty White Collar overview: [link]
Ah, the dom/sub reading.
I think he overstates the "no lie" quotient of the show. Neal totally lies to Peter. It's more that there are few misunderstandings. Peter just sees through him. So while there are no "lie arcs" there are still lies. Neal might trust Peter more than he trusts anyone else, but that's not a total trust.
I don't think the point was no lying, it was that the plot doesn't hinge on the kind of obvious lies that in real life no one would buy. Or at least that's my take. It reminds me of romance novel critiques where one of the tests were "could the entire conflict of the plot have been resolved by someone asking one question that any reasonable person in that circumstance would ask?" A surprising number fail.
I think the no *stupid* lie part was pretty dead on. Yes Neal lies, and Peter knows it, but they aren't stupid lies, really.
He said:
The same holds true for Neal and Peter; they rarely lie
Neal doesn't rarely lie to Peter--he lies to him about once an ep. Peter doesn't lie to Neal. He brutalises him with the truth, in fact. Keeps him in check with it.
I agree with him that arcs don't hinge on lies being believed, but I think it's mischaracterising the relationship to say they're rarely told.
I know he's very attached to Neal being a good little sub, but he's not that good.
Fair point. I was focusing on his point about how it's not the lies that drive the plot. They are there, but because Peter almost always knows about them, they are pretty secondary to the plot arc.