I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


megan walker - Aug 31, 2007 11:37:23 am PDT #450 of 11998
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Ahh, thanks. So the two are partners, not Boss & Underling.

I'm now 3 episodes behind, but I think it's Boss and Former Boss/Partner's Son. In the second or third episode when Don and Roger get called in to Big Boss's office, they reference a picture where it seems that Roger is a little kid on someone's lap so I took it to be that Roger's father founded firm with Big Boss.

Also, I'm loving their attention to detail. Peter's "old money" family vacationing on Fishers Island is spot on in and of itself, but the fact that that's where the the Bethelem Steel heir's mansion actually was (way back when) is just perfect.


Liese S. - Aug 31, 2007 11:52:19 am PDT #451 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Ah, megan, that would work for the dynamic we see.


Jon B. - Aug 31, 2007 12:39:49 pm PDT #452 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I think it's Boss and Former Boss/Partner's Son

Thanks, Megan. Makes sense.


Jesse - Aug 31, 2007 2:18:23 pm PDT #453 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, that's got to be it -- Roger is definitely the junior partner, so that explains "his" name coming first.

I knew something was up when they gave us the shot of Don's hands and the money as the elevator doors closed,

I totally missed that! Possibly because I was getting dip in the kitchen.

This is taking place in 1960, right? Too bad it would have to go four seasons before The Feminine Mystique comes out in 1963.


Liese S. - Aug 31, 2007 2:51:49 pm PDT #454 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Did you have a Chip-N-Dip?


Jesse - Aug 31, 2007 3:02:18 pm PDT #455 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Sadly, I did not. But just imagine what those guys will think of Gladware!

Oh, and I definitely thought they were setting Don up to be Jewish, until they showed his family.


Vortex - Aug 31, 2007 3:04:44 pm PDT #456 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

his mother may have been jewish.


sumi - Sep 01, 2007 6:46:46 pm PDT #457 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Mad Men: Over at TWOP a couple of people have brought up the intriguing idea that Roger realized that Don had set him up. I didn't get that at all from watching the episode and wonder if anyone here did? (I may re-watch on-demand tomorrow.)


sumi - Sep 01, 2007 6:58:10 pm PDT #458 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Mad Men: Tavis Smiley's interview with Jon Hamm - there is a transcript and audio of the interview.


Jon B. - Sep 02, 2007 4:33:33 am PDT #459 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

a couple of people have brought up the intriguing idea that Roger realized that Don had set him up.

My take was that it crossed Roger's mind, but he was too drunk and sick to decide for certain.