She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face.

Willow ,'Help'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Jesse - Nov 09, 2009 8:04:03 am PST #3589 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My main thought was that with Duck *and* Sterling-Cooper-Draper-Price both unofficially working out of the Pierre, Peggy's affair isn't going to stay secret for very long.

Ooh, good call.


megan walker - Nov 09, 2009 8:08:38 am PST #3590 of 11998
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Definitely. They can't have spent more than a week together at most.

While I agree that it's not a smart move on Betty's part, they did set up a correspondence in the summer and the last few episodes have taken place over many months.


DavidS - Nov 09, 2009 10:15:57 am PST #3591 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Interesting that Don chose Pete over Ken, since they both had similar billings. Ken was better at servicing the clients, but Don wanted Pete's vision.

Don had to go back and tell Roger, Peggy and Pete exactly why he valued them. As noted, each was a pitch, but Don knows the best pitches have truth in them.

Joan gets a fantastic entrance. Several times this year they've written little valentine scenes to Joan (the accordion, the lawnmower triage, and Joanie On the Spot office coordinator) - but they all pay off so huge.

I hope her husband gets fragged in Nam.

God, I was hating Betty when she was sitting there with Henry meeting with the divorce lawyer. She's making a huge fucking mistake. Not necessarily in leaving Don, but in going to Henry. Who won't cheat and will love her, but will in many ways be so much more constraining and limiting to her life.

Sally's going to hate Betty a lot. And cause a lot of friction in that marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if Don got custody of Sally by S5.

They barely jumped forward in time between S2 and S3, but I think they will have to between S3 and S4. They want to land in the mid-sixties. Whole new set! Whole new wardrobes! Well, actually the men will look pretty similar.

I was just watching a bit from How To Succeed In Business (young, gap-toothed, goofy Robert Morse!) the other day and the late sixties business look was still pretty close to the early sixties. Hair is less slicked down, and the sideburns are just starting to make themselves known.

They'll have to do an episode in Swinging London. Pryce's wife will probably divorce him to get out of NYC.

I hope we get to see Kinsey, Cosgrove and Sal popping up at other agencies. Maybe Sal can establish himself as a director and they can hire him free lance.

Ugh - hard watching Don's father kicked in hist face by the horse. My Dad's grandmother was kicked in the head by a mule and spent the rest of her life in an asylum.

Don's confrontation with Betty about Henry was ugly but it could've been worse. Having had that kind of conversation there's more than a little murder in your heart at that instant. Not so much the infidelity, but the betrayal of the other parent planning to take the kids away to be raised by somebody else. So, not to justify Don's physical bullying but it was a true, ragged, raw scene.

Also, Don doesn't forget and he will get his revenge against Henry at some point. Not a punch in the face, but he'll sabotage Henry's career in such a way that he'll still have money but will have to leave the public arena.


DavidS - Nov 09, 2009 10:36:14 am PST #3592 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sepinwall points out that it was structured sort of like a caper movie where Don and Roger were assembling their crew.


Jon B. - Nov 09, 2009 10:43:43 am PST #3593 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

it was structured sort of like a caper movie

We noticed the same thing, right down to the low-key incidental music.


Glamcookie - Nov 09, 2009 10:52:31 am PST #3594 of 11998
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Also, how nice was it to see Don and Roger mending their relationship? Love!


DavidS - Nov 09, 2009 11:02:37 am PST #3595 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ooh subtle tidbit gleaned at Sepinwall: Trudy got her father to give back the Clearasil account to Pete. That's how he made his allotment.

Trudy and Pete's marriage is this really intriguing, rather odd thing. But I like it, and her character's growth.


Hayden - Nov 09, 2009 11:08:26 am PST #3596 of 11998
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

God, I was hating Betty when she was sitting there with Henry meeting with the divorce lawyer. She's making a huge fucking mistake. Not necessarily in leaving Don, but in going to Henry. Who won't cheat and will love her, but will in many ways be so much more constraining and limiting to her life.

She's like Jimmy Stewart's wife in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence! Or maybe not, but that analogy just struck me.


DavidS - Nov 09, 2009 12:20:55 pm PST #3597 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Another interesting bit was the whole stealing the office portion of the story.

My friend Frank (Emmett's godfather) left a small law firm where he was one of three partners, and he basically had to do exactly the same thing. In fact, it would've been considered legal malpractice if he didn't sneak into the offices over the weekend and take all his client files.


le nubian - Nov 09, 2009 12:26:32 pm PST #3598 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If I didn't hate Pete so much for being such a bastard, I would dig his marriage with Trudy so much more. He is definitely a better person with her around.