Buffy. When I saw you stop the world from, you know, ending, I just assumed that was a big week for you. Turns out I suddenly find myself needing to know the plural of 'apocalypse.'

Riley ,'Potential'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Hayden - Nov 09, 2009 11:08:26 am PST #3596 of 11998
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

God, I was hating Betty when she was sitting there with Henry meeting with the divorce lawyer. She's making a huge fucking mistake. Not necessarily in leaving Don, but in going to Henry. Who won't cheat and will love her, but will in many ways be so much more constraining and limiting to her life.

She's like Jimmy Stewart's wife in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence! Or maybe not, but that analogy just struck me.


DavidS - Nov 09, 2009 12:20:55 pm PST #3597 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Another interesting bit was the whole stealing the office portion of the story.

My friend Frank (Emmett's godfather) left a small law firm where he was one of three partners, and he basically had to do exactly the same thing. In fact, it would've been considered legal malpractice if he didn't sneak into the offices over the weekend and take all his client files.


le nubian - Nov 09, 2009 12:26:32 pm PST #3598 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If I didn't hate Pete so much for being such a bastard, I would dig his marriage with Trudy so much more. He is definitely a better person with her around.


-t - Nov 09, 2009 12:39:08 pm PST #3599 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Trudy has really turned out to be pretty interesting.

So that's what the raised eyebrow over Clearasil meant. I'd forgotten that business.

I hope they don't skip too much time. I love the scrappy little brand-new ad agency. Don typing! Peggy not getting coffee! Roger fully awake and involved! Fantastic.


DavidS - Nov 09, 2009 12:47:14 pm PST #3600 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Pete Campbell is one of the most unprecedented characters I've seen on a TV show. He's weasely, and insecure and entitled and he's also (I suspect) borderline Asperger's syndrome. And yet, he's not unsympathetic for all his flaws and fuckery. He's human and complicated.

One of the huge abiding pleasures of this show is how Weiner builds these complex relationships, and this particular episode paid off on so many different histories.

That scene with Don and Peggy was amazing, because you could see it was breaking her heart to think he'd never talk to her again. And Don does love her - but not romantically. I don't know that he'd even identify it as "love." But a mixture of respect and concern and care and intimacy.

Rewatching the episode it was incredible to see all the harsh, harsh things everybody said to each other. But the really interesting part narratively was that everybody responded positively to those truthful moments. Like they were starving for the truth.

Like Bert needed to hear somebody tell him to go back to sleep old man. Or Roger to hear that what he really needed was a challenge - way more than a vacation. His life is already a permanent vacation. It's the work that makes it worthwhile. And he's a really good account man.

Roger tells Don that he doesn't value relationships, and Don takes that to heart. That's exactly how he woos Peggy and Pete - by valuing them. And it's so important to both of them to get Don's validation.


Jesse - Nov 09, 2009 1:02:21 pm PST #3601 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And yet, he's not unsympathetic for all his flaws and fuckery. He's human and complicated.

True of so many of the characters.


Liese S. - Nov 09, 2009 1:13:45 pm PST #3602 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, they are all energized by it. And Don probably the most out of it. It's crazy that it happened with the timing it did in his life, but he was about to be completely unavailable to the family with his complete engagement in this new agency.

Trudy & Pete are so interesting. At the start of the show, they were like the little proto Don & Betty's, playing at being a married couple. But that little glance that Don gives Trudy is so telling. And yet, he's about to be so happy with the work he's doing.

Again, I love that I never have any idea where this show is going. It's so wild how it ended up where it did, but it's also so organic that it did. Lots of storytelling payoff.


sj - Nov 09, 2009 1:39:42 pm PST #3603 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Trudy and Pete's marriage is this really intriguing, rather odd thing. But I like it, and her character's growth.

It is. I liked the way he listened to her and took her advice the last couple of weeks, and watching them watching the assassination news unfold on TV was almost sweet. I would possibly start to like Pete if he hadn't become a rapist this season.


DavidS - Nov 09, 2009 5:57:02 pm PST #3604 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One thing I like about the show, and I occasionally see contravened in various blog comments, is the intimacy of the work relationships. Obviously, work and sex bleed together in Mad Men.

But...I like that Don's best relationship with Peggy is a work relationship. And I think also that Roger's best relationship with Joan is at work.

I work-ship those characters. I love seeing them in scenes together. But I don't want them to get married. I don't want them having sex and being involved. I want the intimacy of collaboration, and respect between them.

Which, curiously, I also see and like in Pete and Trudy. But I like them best when they're working Pete's career.


Vortex - Nov 09, 2009 7:46:35 pm PST #3605 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I really liked this ep. I am very disappointed that it's the end of season! Don was forced to come out from behind his charm and be honest and real and it worked for him.

I was really hoping that Sal would walk in the door, didn't even grok what Lucky Strike would mean. I'm hoping that they say to hell with it and hire him at Sterling Cooper Draper and Price. SCDP, baby!