I wonder if my mom had twilight sleep anesthesia when she had my brother in the army hospital in '67. She said both she and the baby were doped up for days after. I'll have to ask her. What a nightmare that would be!

I know my mother had difficult deliveries, even though she had 7. I kept her in the hospital over Christmas the year I was born because of several false starts. Then she got pregnant again when I was 2 mos. old and spent the last month of her pregnancy in the hospital!

Then, 2 years later my brother was both larger than us girls and a breach birth!

She was not a happy person when pregnant, and now I get it.

Y'all notice that when the prison guard wouldn't meet Don's eye towards the end, there was no baby on his wife's lap?

I saw that there was no baby, but didn't really realize the implications. Side note - why does the husband get to decide what happens with the baby - the nurse (voice of Lisa Simpson BTW) said that he had to give permission. I thought maybe insurance, but it was the 60s

She said both she and the baby were doped up for days after.

A good friend had her son in a military hospital in Japan. She blames their highly drugged state with never having actually bonded with him. It was so sad for both of them.

She blames their highly drugged state with never having actually bonded with him.

I don't think that was a problem for my mom and brother, thank goodness. Pretty sure she had me the next year with no meds at all, though. (And she still says I was the easiest one!)

She blames their highly drugged state with never having actually bonded with him.

Were they drugged for eighteen years? Because you've got plenty of time to bond with your kid.

I had a c-section while high on ketamine, and I bonded with Dylan just fine.

(Honestly, reading all the various "Thank goodness we don't do THAT anymore!" comments - mostly by men - on Facebook and Twitter today is making me cranky, because, hi, YES WE DO. We have less damaging drugs today than we did in the 60's, but the infantilization of pregnant woman and medicalization of childbirth is still very much the norm.)

That's always something I have to guard against watching something "period" myself. But, you know, stay classy, gentlemen, opining about shit about which you obviously don't have idea one!

YES WE DO. We have less damaging drugs today than we did in the 60's, but the infantilization of pregnant woman and medicalization of childbirth is still very much the norm.

For sure. Although, in my birth experience, it was coming more from the older generation of nurses that I encountered, than the younger nurses and my doctor. But, that was my experience and I wouldn't think to speak to anyone else's.

I had a c-section while high on ketamine, and I bonded with Dylan just fine.

And plenty of parents bond just fine with children they didn't give birth to at all.