Young Simon: So... how'd the Independents cut us off? Young River: They were using dinosaurs.

'Safe'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


lisah - Sep 14, 2009 9:27:08 am PDT #3204 of 11998
Punishingly Intricate

She blames their highly drugged state with never having actually bonded with him.

I don't think that was a problem for my mom and brother, thank goodness. Pretty sure she had me the next year with no meds at all, though. (And she still says I was the easiest one!)


DavidS - Sep 14, 2009 9:30:25 am PDT #3205 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She blames their highly drugged state with never having actually bonded with him.

Were they drugged for eighteen years? Because you've got plenty of time to bond with your kid.


Jessica - Sep 14, 2009 9:39:09 am PDT #3206 of 11998
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I had a c-section while high on ketamine, and I bonded with Dylan just fine.

(Honestly, reading all the various "Thank goodness we don't do THAT anymore!" comments - mostly by men - on Facebook and Twitter today is making me cranky, because, hi, YES WE DO. We have less damaging drugs today than we did in the 60's, but the infantilization of pregnant woman and medicalization of childbirth is still very much the norm.)


erikaj - Sep 14, 2009 9:43:49 am PDT #3207 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

That's always something I have to guard against watching something "period" myself. But, you know, stay classy, gentlemen, opining about shit about which you obviously don't have idea one!


Aims - Sep 14, 2009 9:48:31 am PDT #3208 of 11998
Shit's all sorts of different now.

YES WE DO. We have less damaging drugs today than we did in the 60's, but the infantilization of pregnant woman and medicalization of childbirth is still very much the norm.

For sure. Although, in my birth experience, it was coming more from the older generation of nurses that I encountered, than the younger nurses and my doctor. But, that was my experience and I wouldn't think to speak to anyone else's.


lisah - Sep 14, 2009 9:51:14 am PDT #3209 of 11998
Punishingly Intricate

I had a c-section while high on ketamine, and I bonded with Dylan just fine.

And plenty of parents bond just fine with children they didn't give birth to at all.


le nubian - Sep 14, 2009 10:07:42 am PDT #3210 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I thought the baby was still in intensive care.


Theodosia - Sep 14, 2009 1:31:14 pm PDT #3211 of 11998
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Twilight sleep, I expect, was basically roofie-drugging the woman so she didn't remember it later.


Laura - Sep 14, 2009 1:51:57 pm PDT #3212 of 11998
Our wings are not tired.

My mom was asleep for all 4 of us. My giving birth was the first live birth she had ever seen. She did bond with all of us just fine.


beekaytee - Sep 14, 2009 1:58:06 pm PDT #3213 of 11998
Compassionately intolerant

Were they drugged for eighteen years? Because you've got plenty of time to bond with your kid.

Can't argue that point. Of course, there must have been other contributing factors, but my friend really thought the drugs had an impact in her particular case.