That's always something I have to guard against watching something "period" myself. But, you know, stay classy, gentlemen, opining about shit about which you obviously don't have idea one!
My love for me now / Ain't hard to explain / The Hero of Canton / The man they call...ME.
Jayne ,'Jaynestown'
Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...
To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])
erikaj - Sep 14, 2009 9:43:49 am PDT #3207 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!
Aims - Sep 14, 2009 9:48:31 am PDT #3208 of 11998
Shit's all sorts of different now.
YES WE DO. We have less damaging drugs today than we did in the 60's, but the infantilization of pregnant woman and medicalization of childbirth is still very much the norm.
For sure. Although, in my birth experience, it was coming more from the older generation of nurses that I encountered, than the younger nurses and my doctor. But, that was my experience and I wouldn't think to speak to anyone else's.
lisah - Sep 14, 2009 9:51:14 am PDT #3209 of 11998
Punishingly Intricate
I had a c-section while high on ketamine, and I bonded with Dylan just fine.
And plenty of parents bond just fine with children they didn't give birth to at all.
le nubian - Sep 14, 2009 10:07:42 am PDT #3210 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I thought the baby was still in intensive care.
Theodosia - Sep 14, 2009 1:31:14 pm PDT #3211 of 11998
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Twilight sleep, I expect, was basically roofie-drugging the woman so she didn't remember it later.
Laura - Sep 14, 2009 1:51:57 pm PDT #3212 of 11998
Our wings are not tired.
My mom was asleep for all 4 of us. My giving birth was the first live birth she had ever seen. She did bond with all of us just fine.
beekaytee - Sep 14, 2009 1:58:06 pm PDT #3213 of 11998
Compassionately intolerant
Were they drugged for eighteen years? Because you've got plenty of time to bond with your kid.
Can't argue that point. Of course, there must have been other contributing factors, but my friend really thought the drugs had an impact in her particular case.
DavidS - Sep 14, 2009 2:07:22 pm PDT #3214 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Can't argue that point. Of course, there must have been other contributing factors, but my friend really thought the drugs had an impact in her particular case.
I just dislike the idea that "bonding" is some magical ILM special effect that sparks between mother and child when their hormones are properly aligned.
It's something that happens when you get up at 2am to rock the baby to sleep after it wakes with a racking cough. It's putting down your book to play Candyland for the umpty fucking thousandth time. It's something you earn by being there, every day, and being present, and putting yourself aside.
It doesn't happen in a moment. It happens because you always show up.
Jesse - Sep 14, 2009 4:08:42 pm PDT #3215 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
We have less damaging drugs today than we did in the 60's, but the infantilization of pregnant woman and medicalization of childbirth is still very much the norm.
Yeah, I have a friend who was always leaning that way, but firmed up her plans to have her baby at home after being in the hospital with her sister giving birth a few months earlier.
The prison guard/his wife/lack of baby just killed me.
I am also feeling the lack of Joan! But enjoying the subtlety of these episodes.
Theodosia - Sep 14, 2009 4:13:31 pm PDT #3216 of 11998
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
We also didn't get any followup with Peggy and her fun!Roomie. Hopefully next week!