This isn't a come-on. I'm in a very serious relationship with a landscape architect.

Oliver ,'Conviction (1)'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Barb - Aug 31, 2009 4:51:41 am PDT #2976 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

So many contrasting moments I keep coming back to in this episode. Opening up with Jane being such a plastic-faced bitch to Joan contrasting with drunken Jane clutching Don and plaintively saying "You don't like me. But I'm a nice person."


Jon B. - Aug 31, 2009 4:51:48 am PDT #2977 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Even when Don excused himself, it wasn't because he was horrified, it was because he was bored.

Really? I thought he looked really uncomfortable. I figured that Don, growing up as he did, was more aware than the others of how tasteless it was. I thought that's what put him in the reminiscing mood with the guy at the bar.

But I have no idea why Pete looked uncomfortable as well.


DavidS - Aug 31, 2009 5:05:55 am PDT #2978 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's part of what I meant when I said this episode really felt as if it was about the uncomfortable, on-edge moments. I was just prickly and restless all the way through.

I thought they framed and paced it like a horror movie at times. All the interactions between Sally and her grandpa seemed like they were coiled and ready to explode. (Incidentally her lisp reminds of Linus in Charlie Brown Christmas.)

And that shot where Don walked over to Betty, alone near the trees? I thought for sure a werewolf was going to pop out and eat her head. Okay, maybe not, but they did frame that shot up like a horror movie scene.


Jessica - Aug 31, 2009 5:09:43 am PDT #2979 of 11998
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I didn't read his reaction as "Ew, racism" but "Ew, Roger's making out with my old secretary."


Barb - Aug 31, 2009 5:17:47 am PDT #2980 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

I read his reaction as a universal "ew." Kind of like he can't believe that this is what he's worked his ass off for and that it's a setting in which, no matter what external trappings he may now possess, is not necessarily one in which he feels comfortable or as if he belongs. Hence, the reminiscences seeming totally natural coming from a guy who's usually so guarded.


Jon B. - Aug 31, 2009 5:21:29 am PDT #2981 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That's true that the whole country club setting could have set him off. I suppose part of my reaction is me seeing what I want to see.


Hayden - Aug 31, 2009 7:48:40 am PDT #2982 of 11998
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I thought Don and Pete both looked horrified at the blackface routine, but for different reasons. I think Don appears to have a burgeoning social conscience of sorts, which is sorta uncomfortable because he's not exactly hero material. But I do think he understands the desire to be treated as an equal. Pete, on the other hand, probably thought that the whole display was the gauche sensibility of the nouveau riche.


sj - Aug 31, 2009 9:36:46 am PDT #2983 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm wondering if Betty's offhand remark about the baby not moving right now is foreshadowing of a miscarriage.


Hayden - Aug 31, 2009 10:19:17 am PDT #2984 of 11998
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

There was a reference to Jackie O's pregnancy, too, and she had a stillborn child in mid '63, right?


sj - Aug 31, 2009 10:31:16 am PDT #2985 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

There was a reference to Jackie O's pregnancy, too, and she had a stillborn child in mid '63, right?

I forgot about that reference, and yes she did.