Maybe I've always been here.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


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To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Hayden - Sep 30, 2008 6:04:47 am PDT #1452 of 11998
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Over on House Next Door, they're thinking that JFK will be shot between seasons. They say the Weiner is planning five seasons to cover 10 years, so it'll only cover every other year.


amych - Sep 30, 2008 6:12:57 am PDT #1453 of 11998
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Over on House Next Door, they're thinking that JFK will be shot between seasons.

Makes sense -- it would also fit Weiner's style very well to come back in early in '64, having missed the big traumatic event but coming in when the emotions and the sense of things being shaken up are still raw. An OMG-turn-on-the-radio ep seems too heavy-handed, but a series of after-the-fact references and allusions would make perfect sense.


DavidS - Sep 30, 2008 6:47:47 am PDT #1454 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

1964 has the added virtue of being All About the Beatles and heralding a huge cultural shift. Don and the other ad men are going to be on the wrong side of a generational divide.

Also, when Don was sitting in his dark office talking to Peggy about not informing him first about Freddy - he reminded me a lot of Michael Coreleone in Godfather II.


Barb - Sep 30, 2008 6:52:22 am PDT #1455 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

By the by, Mad Men V.2 Soundtrack was just released today.


Vortex - Sep 30, 2008 7:07:39 am PDT #1456 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Also, when Don was sitting in his dark office talking to Peggy about not informing him first about Freddy - he reminded me a lot of Michael Coreleone in Godfather II.

I give her some credit for not throwing Pete under the bus. She said that they should tell Don, and Pete said no. Then Pete went running to Duck and Roger.


Jon B. - Sep 30, 2008 7:13:14 am PDT #1457 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I could see S3 starting with (or immediately after) the JFK assassination and ending with the Beatles on Ed Sullivan. That would cover a brief period of time when a generational divide really came to the fore.


Barb - Sep 30, 2008 7:37:35 am PDT #1458 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

That would be a really short timespan for the season, though, given how they've structured so far.

Let's see... S1 ran from March '60 to Thanksgiving of that year.

S2, so far has run from Valentine's Day '62 to currently, August of that year, with four eps remaining.

Not to say that Weiner wouldn't do it, because I think he's prone to doing the unexpected, but I'm not sure if he could get all the story he wanted into a little under three months of show time.

I could actually see him starting with New Year's Eve '63. Out with the old, in with the new, horrible things have happened, there's a change on the horizon and as Hec said, Don's going to be caught right in the middle of a cultural revolution that he's not exactly ready for.


Fred Pete - Sep 30, 2008 8:37:49 am PDT #1459 of 11998
Ann, that's a ferret.

Not to mention that Bewitched, with a main character working in an ad agency (that figured in a number of episodes!) premiered in the fall of 1964.


amych - Oct 01, 2008 6:02:35 pm PDT #1460 of 11998
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Another big cultural moment for the '64 season: Cassius Clay. We just ran into Floyd Patterson in the gambling joint with a brief scene about whether he's about to lose the heavyweight title; in about a month and a half, he's going to lose the title to Sonny Liston in the first round.

Liston meets Clay in February of 1964, so if it's true that we'll keep seeing every other year for more-or-less the calendar year, I'm calling it now. (And I can even guess who's going to win the big fight).


Jon B. - Oct 02, 2008 1:12:46 am PDT #1461 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Oooh, was I was watching that scene, I thought to myself, I wish I knew boxing history better because this could be significant later. Thanks for the mini-lesson.