The Jackie/ Marilyn conversation bugged me too, but somehow it was cool that Don had an answer for it.

I know! I'm still mad at Duck. Likely because Seabiscuit came to us through somebody turning him out. Threw him out of a car, probably. Makes me furious.

I miss the beatnik girl, because I miss seeing that type of social motion. It's too insular, too much the restricted universe of the admen.

Do you think it's more insular now because Don has moved up in the world?

Is he still living in the same 'burb he was in season 1? Have they moved up that way too?

Is he still living in the same 'burb he was in season 1?

Yep -- they're still in Sing Sing.

I got through 20 minutes of "The Shield" before I had to turn it off. Too.much.gore.

I'll have to try again tomorrow.

Yep -- they're still in Sing Sing.

Well, they live in Ossining -- it just feels like a prison.

Well, they live in Ossining -- it just feels like a prison.

Oh, I know. But I did find it interesting that in this ep, the prison is a subject of conversation at the country club, whereas last season it was there thematically but unspoken.

Yeah, maybe they found that people didn't get it.

Yeah, you can probably number me among the "didn't get it" crowd.

So I rewatched last night, and it was painful. In the best possible narrative way. I love that I have this group to hash it out with, because I get so much more out of it. Looking for the themes, thinking about the nuances.

One of the awful moments was Betty's resigned, "I didn't know," in response to Don's "It's desperate." I hate that women were made to feel this way.

I have more I'm thinking about regarding their relationship, but I can't quite articulate it yet.

Also, at first, I thought the hair of Pete's new fling was out of era. It looked eighties to me somehow. But later it wasn't so bad.

My, my, my... meow

Joan's going to have her hands full with Jane for a bit, but I suspect Jane's still an amateur at this game.