I'm a big girl. Just tell me.

Inara ,'Objects In Space'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


DavidS - May 04, 2015 2:43:44 pm PDT #11734 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Wait until the end of the episode. Peggy doesn't look like she's at square one by episode's end, I promise.


sj - May 04, 2015 2:51:59 pm PDT #11735 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Don is still seeing dead people. And is he ever going to go back?

Have Roger and Peggy ever actually had a one on one scene together before?

Joan, is the last person I thought would make those kind of threats, and I wish she would have followed through with it, even though it probably would have been useless.


sj - May 04, 2015 2:53:44 pm PDT #11736 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Wait until the end of the episode. Peggy doesn't look like she's at square one by episode's end, I promise.

Just finished. She may have entered the office with a positive attitude, but nothing we saw made me think that she is going to be taken seriously. I wasn't implying the women themselves haven't changed but that they are at square one with having to prove themselves to the men they work with all over again.


-t - May 04, 2015 5:50:32 pm PDT #11737 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Joan is breaking my heart, but Peggy rollerskating while Roger played the organ was glorious.

I like On the Road Don giving a ride to a hippie. I wonder if he ever picked out paint, if his new place is ready for him to move in.


sj - May 04, 2015 9:20:41 pm PDT #11738 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I don't think he needed to pick out paint after he hired his secretary to decorate the whole place.


-t - May 05, 2015 3:23:05 am PDT #11739 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Right, she was gonna run with whatever picture he liked. So he probably does have some place to go back to.


Wolfram - May 05, 2015 10:49:45 am PDT #11740 of 11998
Visilurking

Watching Don at the Miller creatives meeting was painful.

Goddammit, McCann is the worst.

I don't know which one is the worst out of Dennis, Ferg and McCann. Dennis doesn't even respect Joan's skills enough to read her briefs and just figures he's better off winging it then following her lead. Ferg respects her account management skills enough, but..., ugh. He and Harry should be strung up by their balls. And McCann, he just hates strong women.

They're all the worst.

I really wanted Joan to stick it out to earn all her money and make McCann squirm.


Jessica - May 05, 2015 11:16:49 am PDT #11741 of 11998
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And McCann, he just hates strong women.

Fixed that for you :)

This episode was...bleargh. I liked Peggy's power walk into McCann at the end, but I don't understand it in the context of what happened to Joan. It's not like having octopus porn in her office is going to make her *less* objectified.


Wolfram - May 05, 2015 11:20:27 am PDT #11742 of 11998
Visilurking

I think the octopus porn represented her taking Roger's advice and not caring if people found her intimidating, but rather starting to see it as an advantage.

Either way, I think Peggy's road at McCann will be bumpy.


-t - May 05, 2015 11:23:46 am PDT #11743 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Her not feeling like she needs to put men at ease is better for her, though. That was her objection to it, that it would make guys uncomfortable.

Watching Don at the Miller creatives meeting was painful.

I am not sure what was going on with him then. Maybe there were a lot of things.

I don't like seeing Joan so beaten down, but I do like how well this all answers that whole "desirable women have all the power" trope.