Wash: Little River just gets more colorful by the moment. What'll she do next? Zoe: Either blow us all up or rub soup in our hair. It's a toss-up. Wash: I hope she does the soup thing. It's always a hoot, and we don't all die from it.

'Objects In Space'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Wolfram - May 05, 2015 10:49:45 am PDT #11740 of 11998
Visilurking

Watching Don at the Miller creatives meeting was painful.

Goddammit, McCann is the worst.

I don't know which one is the worst out of Dennis, Ferg and McCann. Dennis doesn't even respect Joan's skills enough to read her briefs and just figures he's better off winging it then following her lead. Ferg respects her account management skills enough, but..., ugh. He and Harry should be strung up by their balls. And McCann, he just hates strong women.

They're all the worst.

I really wanted Joan to stick it out to earn all her money and make McCann squirm.


Jessica - May 05, 2015 11:16:49 am PDT #11741 of 11998
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And McCann, he just hates strong women.

Fixed that for you :)

This episode was...bleargh. I liked Peggy's power walk into McCann at the end, but I don't understand it in the context of what happened to Joan. It's not like having octopus porn in her office is going to make her *less* objectified.


Wolfram - May 05, 2015 11:20:27 am PDT #11742 of 11998
Visilurking

I think the octopus porn represented her taking Roger's advice and not caring if people found her intimidating, but rather starting to see it as an advantage.

Either way, I think Peggy's road at McCann will be bumpy.


-t - May 05, 2015 11:23:46 am PDT #11743 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Her not feeling like she needs to put men at ease is better for her, though. That was her objection to it, that it would make guys uncomfortable.

Watching Don at the Miller creatives meeting was painful.

I am not sure what was going on with him then. Maybe there were a lot of things.

I don't like seeing Joan so beaten down, but I do like how well this all answers that whole "desirable women have all the power" trope.


Wolfram - May 05, 2015 12:16:51 pm PDT #11744 of 11998
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I don't like seeing Joan so beaten down, but I do like how well this all answers that whole "desirable women have all the power" trope.

I've always hated the way Joan got her partnership, because she really did deserve to be a partner at SCPD at least as much as Pete did, and instead she had to get it by doing something unconscionable. I guess it's a good thing she can end that association by taking the cash settlement.

It's also apparent that nobody told the folks at McCann about how Joan negotiated her partnership, or at least one of them would have thrown it in her face. This indicates, at least, that Roger, Don and Pete consider her partnership to be earned on merit. (I don't think Teddy knew about it either.)


Jon B. - May 06, 2015 8:05:01 am PDT #11745 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I am not sure what was going on with him then. Maybe there were a lot of things.

My take was that the consultant, in his speech, was doing what Don usually does -- setting up the whole mise en scène. That's what Don does best. Instead, it appeared as though he was only being asked to come up with ads that incorporated the consultant's pre-existing themes. I think Don found that dull and/or beneath him.


Wolfram - May 06, 2015 8:15:10 am PDT #11746 of 11998
Visilurking

My take was that the consultant, in his speech, was doing what Don usually does -- setting up the whole mise en scène. That's what Don does best. Instead, it appeared as though he was only being asked to come up with ads that incorporated the consultant's pre-existing themes. I think Don found that dull and/or beneath him.

That was my take too.


-t - May 06, 2015 10:06:28 am PDT #11747 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

the consultant, in his speech, was doing what Don usually does -

Yeah, I thought that might be it, but then I couldn't figure out the significance of the airplane (or maybe the building, I don't know). It seemed to have Significance, right?


Wolfram - May 06, 2015 11:23:42 am PDT #11748 of 11998
Visilurking

It seemed to have Significance, right?

Doesn't everything on this show?


DavidS - May 06, 2015 3:21:33 pm PDT #11749 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but then I couldn't figure out the significance of the airplane

Flight. Freedom. Escape. What Don always does - he takes off.