But what I was referring to at the time was "You can't trust that group of people Other than me" which I've heard in various incarnations.
I do dig that. But that's not even about race to me--that's about boundary setting and team building and enemy identification. There's no difference for me seeing a black guy do it from a white guy, not with the lines he was handed. I could see it written so that it's a black guy who can't trust a white guy not to throw him under the bus, but that's a reverse from what you're noting.
Aha. I think what I'm saying is that not only do I not see it applying any better to the demographics represented in SPN last night than many other demographics, it also doesn't correlate with any particular power differential in any direction. So it has no resonance for me.
Okay. That makes sense to me.
I didn't realize Lily
was
a lesbian until I read it here.
I think I saw Jake the same way Sail did.
Well, she said something about touching her girlfriend.
This is the cell-phone scene from SPN -(I can't remember what it's
really
called. I can say that people over at TWOP are up in arms.)
Ummm, my very slow computer is still downloading it AND my speakers don't work so I won't be able to hear the dialogue so I can't give any spoiler infor about it. Apparently, it's ususally the same as one of the director's cuts.
sumi - that's not a cell phone scene. It's a scene we saw part of in the promo and it is very spoileriffic for next week.
Unless you mean it was played on a cell phone and then recorded, because it is a crap video for sure.
Sorry about that -- I started to post but then I remembered I'd come into Boxed Set with the Gina Holden news.
It's the scene that they use for people who have cell-phones. (Like the VM Veoh scenes.)
So, it was played on a cell-phone - but was intended to be.
(That probably means that the Director's cuts when they come up will be very spoilery.)
ION, Gina Holden who plays Vicky's assistant on
Blood Ties
has been cast in the new version of
Flash Gordon. (From TV Squad.)
Some thoughts on Thursday's ep of SPN:
Over on some other boards, there has been some discussion about whether or not Dean might consider some sort of deal to bring Sam back. The general thought seems to be that this would be going against everything we've seen Dean go through this season, what with his feelings about what his dad did in order to bring him back from death's doorstep at the beginning of the season, his statements about "what's dead should stay dead" in CSPwDT, his thoughts about people who make deals with the devil (Crossroad Blues), etc. Plus, there's the fact the season began with one Winchester making a deal for the life of another family member, and so it seems like too much of a retread.
I have no idea whether or not Dean will make a deal to bring back Sammy, but the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to believe that it would be in character for him to consider it at the very least.
In some ways, events this season have been moving Dean into a position similar to his father's at the end of last season/beginning of this season. From all the way back as far as "Home," we know that John had probably been living under the burden of the "kill Sam or save him" knowledge for quite some time. Plus, he spent approximately half of his life hunting things, and when we saw him in S1, he came across to me as being exhausted, and perhaps almost relieved at the idea of not having to do this any more.
As for Dean, we've seen how the knowledge of what he may have to do to Sam has been weighing on him, and last week's episode showed us that Dean is in many ways ready to lay down this burden and get some rest already. From the very beginning, when John told him to get his brother out of the burning house, Dean's life has been about keeping Sam safe (much as John's life was about finding the thing that had hurt his family and was still an active threat to at least one of his boys). In this last episode, we even had each brother separately bring up the notion that Dean's purpose is to look after Sam.
So now, even if he doesn't make some sort of deal (or try to), I think that given his mental state as shown in "What Is..." and being faced with losing Sam, Dean will have a much deeper understanding of why John did what he did at the beginning of the season. So, if there's a deal, it will (to me, anyhow) be a very appropriate bookend to IMToD, and not a mere retread.
