Okay. That makes sense to me.

I didn't realize Lily was a lesbian until I read it here.

I think I saw Jake the same way Sail did.

Well, she said something about touching her girlfriend.

This is the cell-phone scene from SPN -(I can't remember what it's really called. I can say that people over at TWOP are up in arms.)

Ummm, my very slow computer is still downloading it AND my speakers don't work so I won't be able to hear the dialogue so I can't give any spoiler infor about it. Apparently, it's ususally the same as one of the director's cuts.

sumi - that's not a cell phone scene. It's a scene we saw part of in the promo and it is very spoileriffic for next week.

Unless you mean it was played on a cell phone and then recorded, because it is a crap video for sure.

Sorry about that -- I started to post but then I remembered I'd come into Boxed Set with the Gina Holden news.

It's the scene that they use for people who have cell-phones. (Like the VM Veoh scenes.)

So, it was played on a cell-phone - but was intended to be.

(That probably means that the Director's cuts when they come up will be very spoilery.)

ION, Gina Holden who plays Vicky's assistant on Blood Ties has been cast in the new version of Flash Gordon. (From TV Squad.)

Also, David Eick is denying that next year is the last for BSG.

Some thoughts on Thursday's ep of SPN:

Over on some other boards, there has been some discussion about whether or not Dean might consider some sort of deal to bring Sam back. The general thought seems to be that this would be going against everything we've seen Dean go through this season, what with his feelings about what his dad did in order to bring him back from death's doorstep at the beginning of the season, his statements about "what's dead should stay dead" in CSPwDT, his thoughts about people who make deals with the devil (Crossroad Blues), etc. Plus, there's the fact the season began with one Winchester making a deal for the life of another family member, and so it seems like too much of a retread.

I have no idea whether or not Dean will make a deal to bring back Sammy, but the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to believe that it would be in character for him to consider it at the very least.

In some ways, events this season have been moving Dean into a position similar to his father's at the end of last season/beginning of this season. From all the way back as far as "Home," we know that John had probably been living under the burden of the "kill Sam or save him" knowledge for quite some time. Plus, he spent approximately half of his life hunting things, and when we saw him in S1, he came across to me as being exhausted, and perhaps almost relieved at the idea of not having to do this any more.

As for Dean, we've seen how the knowledge of what he may have to do to Sam has been weighing on him, and last week's episode showed us that Dean is in many ways ready to lay down this burden and get some rest already. From the very beginning, when John told him to get his brother out of the burning house, Dean's life has been about keeping Sam safe (much as John's life was about finding the thing that had hurt his family and was still an active threat to at least one of his boys). In this last episode, we even had each brother separately bring up the notion that Dean's purpose is to look after Sam.

So now, even if he doesn't make some sort of deal (or try to), I think that given his mental state as shown in "What Is..." and being faced with losing Sam, Dean will have a much deeper understanding of why John did what he did at the beginning of the season. So, if there's a deal, it will (to me, anyhow) be a very appropriate bookend to IMToD, and not a mere retread.

Re: Supernatural

The general thought seems to be that this would be going against everything we've seen Dean go through this season, what with his feelings about what his dad did in order to bring him back from death's doorstep at the beginning of the season, his statements about "what's dead should stay dead" in CSPwDT, his thoughts about people who make deals with the devil (Crossroad Blues), etc.

But we've also seen that Dean doesn't believe that the same 'moral rules' or 'guiding principles' or whatever you want to call them, apply to his family. He's stated outright that he's frightened himself with the extent of how far he's willing to go and how easily he's willing to kill to protect his family. So I would accept the thought of him making a deal to bring Sam back.

Assuming that such an event were to happen, however, I'm thinking the weight of the guilt and responsiblity would be crushing to Sam. He's already carrying the guilt and responsiblity for the deaths of his mother and Jess, regardless of how many times Dean and his dad may have told him it wasn't his fault. Now the YED specifically stated that they were killed because of him. (Yeah, Mary was killed because she came into the room at the wrong time... because he was there to perform some sort of ritual on Sam.) We all know that demons lie, but I doubt that's what Sam would be keeping uppermost in his mind, especially if he then has the weight of Dean's sacrifice added to it.