Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - May 11, 2007 10:05:31 am PDT #1239 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We're counting Lily as physical power, right?

Of course, now I want to imagine her named Lilith, and all the cast out of the garden untouchable womanness that implies.


smonster - May 11, 2007 10:09:57 am PDT #1240 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Vonnie, I hear you on the FNL association. However, I feel like in FNL it was more that "Blacks are stupid and ferocious" than plain "Blacks are physically strong" and Jake was never portrayed as stupid, so I decided that it didn't bother me.

Plus, there are enough "ultimate soldier" characters in pop culture that that was where my brain went.


Vonnie K - May 11, 2007 10:10:40 am PDT #1241 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

We're counting Lily as physical power, right?

Hmm, I wasn't, really. She was like Rogue from X-Men, right? Draining other's life force psychically?


Polter-Cow - May 11, 2007 10:10:50 am PDT #1242 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Plus, there are enough "ultimate soldier" characters in pop culture that that was where my brain went.

Hell, just an hour before on Smallville, we had Helo as an "ultimate soldier."


smonster - May 11, 2007 10:11:47 am PDT #1243 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Of course, now I want to imagine her named Lilith, and all the cast out of the garden untouchable womanness that implies.

Oh, my. One could go there, if one wanted.

Okay, I *really* have to go do some work, dangit.


smonster - May 11, 2007 10:12:56 am PDT #1244 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Helo as an "ultimate soldier."

Heh. Speaking of not too bright... (Helo, not Tahmoh's SV character.)


§ ita § - May 11, 2007 10:16:56 am PDT #1245 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She was like Rogue from X-Men, right? Draining other's life force psychically?

She didn't get anything out of it, so I wasn't thinking of her like Rogue. I know they've had a few kill with touch characters in the X Men, but they don't hang out long and don't get names.


sumi - May 11, 2007 10:21:30 am PDT #1246 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Actually, I'm not sure why any of them thought that they could get out. Why wouldn't the YED prevent them from leaving or just bring them back everytime they escaped? It's not like they were able to keep themselves from being abducted in the first place. Perhaps what happened to Ava was that she realized that she could never escape and rather than be killed - got good at winning the game.


Liese S. - May 11, 2007 10:30:00 am PDT #1247 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

blacks are treacherous thing is news to me

I want to clarify that when I initially stated this stereotype I stated it as minorities in general, which is where it comes from for me. It is always possible that I am projecting, because Japanese are treacherous definitely is an existing one. But what I was referring to at the time was "You can't trust that group of people Other than me" which I've heard in various incarnations.


Ailleann - May 11, 2007 10:34:16 am PDT #1248 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

"You can't trust that group of people Other than me"

This is an idea way older than TV.

signed, took a course in college on The Other in Music

t /not sure that has any bearing on current discussion