Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - May 11, 2007 10:16:56 am PDT #1245 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She was like Rogue from X-Men, right? Draining other's life force psychically?

She didn't get anything out of it, so I wasn't thinking of her like Rogue. I know they've had a few kill with touch characters in the X Men, but they don't hang out long and don't get names.


sumi - May 11, 2007 10:21:30 am PDT #1246 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Actually, I'm not sure why any of them thought that they could get out. Why wouldn't the YED prevent them from leaving or just bring them back everytime they escaped? It's not like they were able to keep themselves from being abducted in the first place. Perhaps what happened to Ava was that she realized that she could never escape and rather than be killed - got good at winning the game.


Liese S. - May 11, 2007 10:30:00 am PDT #1247 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

blacks are treacherous thing is news to me

I want to clarify that when I initially stated this stereotype I stated it as minorities in general, which is where it comes from for me. It is always possible that I am projecting, because Japanese are treacherous definitely is an existing one. But what I was referring to at the time was "You can't trust that group of people Other than me" which I've heard in various incarnations.


Ailleann - May 11, 2007 10:34:16 am PDT #1248 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

"You can't trust that group of people Other than me"

This is an idea way older than TV.

signed, took a course in college on The Other in Music

t /not sure that has any bearing on current discussion


§ ita § - May 11, 2007 10:38:44 am PDT #1249 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But what I was referring to at the time was "You can't trust that group of people Other than me" which I've heard in various incarnations.

I do dig that. But that's not even about race to me--that's about boundary setting and team building and enemy identification. There's no difference for me seeing a black guy do it from a white guy, not with the lines he was handed. I could see it written so that it's a black guy who can't trust a white guy not to throw him under the bus, but that's a reverse from what you're noting.

Aha. I think what I'm saying is that not only do I not see it applying any better to the demographics represented in SPN last night than many other demographics, it also doesn't correlate with any particular power differential in any direction. So it has no resonance for me.


Liese S. - May 11, 2007 10:45:53 am PDT #1250 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay. That makes sense to me.


quester - May 11, 2007 6:48:52 pm PDT #1251 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I didn't realize Lily was a lesbian until I read it here.

I think I saw Jake the same way Sail did.


sumi - May 12, 2007 4:41:50 am PDT #1252 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, she said something about touching her girlfriend.


sumi - May 12, 2007 5:00:47 am PDT #1253 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

This is the cell-phone scene from SPN -(I can't remember what it's really called. I can say that people over at TWOP are up in arms.)

Ummm, my very slow computer is still downloading it AND my speakers don't work so I won't be able to hear the dialogue so I can't give any spoiler infor about it. Apparently, it's ususally the same as one of the director's cuts.


SailAweigh - May 12, 2007 5:06:12 am PDT #1254 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

sumi - that's not a cell phone scene. It's a scene we saw part of in the promo and it is very spoileriffic for next week.

Unless you mean it was played on a cell phone and then recorded, because it is a crap video for sure.