Well, in a mercenary sense, I'm just talking about making out and a possible blow job.

I mean, I have an absolute terrible crush on Tim, but it hasn't really occur to me to make a pass at him, because it's a weirdly platonic crush that is just about giving him a gigantic hug every now and again and flirting in some outrageous way in which we argue and make each other nuts. And that's the extent to which I'm comfortable in that crush.

But my neighbor crush includes smoochies, which is what makes me need to throw up a wall. But it's still a crush that could develop into a lovely friendship if I just, you know, build a nice little heart-load bearing wall.

ETA: I have the barrier to relationship msbelle mentions with the recent separation and the still attached to someone, at least legally.

That's icky.

The ickiest.

One marriage that I'm familiar with ended after a 22 year separation. "If I can't have him, no one will."

The neighbor kept the separation going because it meant that he did not have to answer in court for his behavior or be held responsible for expenses.

My bff's separation has been going on for 2 years so far. Massive power and control issues and, as David says, when kids are concerned, things can be dicey.

Thank dog for my divorce. The exDH and I went to the courthouse and did the paperwork together. His only responsibility was the $146 fee. Still? He bounced the check and I had to beg the clerk of court to accept the date of the check as a 'good faith' attempt rather than starting the 6 month clock from zero. I cried. The clerk took pity. The exDH was lucky like that.

No neighbors, no separated etc. Those are pretty general and broad.

And really hardly a drop in the water when it comes to the set that is all risks. Sure, they're risks you're okay with, but don't paint it like just because people won't take some of your risks that it means they're fuddy duddies who'll never know the whirlwind of love that you have. There's a big gap in logic there.

Okay, back to Belize.

Also, didn't Allyson start with asking for reasons why not?

I stand by no neighbors, if you're a person who tends toward strong feelings quickly.

if I just, you know, build a nice little heart-load bearing wall.

Awww. Yeah.

Look, if romance is not a priority (and I don't presume it is for everybody here, and know several folks who have stated otherwise) then it's not worth the heartache.

But if you want love.

If you desire a committed relationship.

Then I am saying that you have to be more open to trying things and can't be so willing to throw up a wall. You can't be looking for reasons Not To. You have to try a lot of maybes and rethink your issues. You have to grow to it.

I say, if you've got misgivings, pay attention to them, follow them through and if you still have them, honor them. What works for some, doesn't work for all. In the Jesse's wise words, dude, people are different.

Okay, back to Belize.

Is it more logical in Belize? I'm imagining a lot of tropical Spocks.

I also just looked back, and apparently this particular guy was wearing his wedding ring two weeks ago. I'm really willing to call that a red flag. ESPECIALLY if a person's looking for love. I might fuck him, but I wouldn't want to date him.

ita! When you get back from Belize... Victor Varnado news

It looks like he's going to be on Last Comic Standing this season. And the Village Voice did a really killer cover story on him a few weeks ago [link]

if you want love.

If you desire a committed relationship.

Then I am saying that you have to be more open to trying things and can't be so willing to throw up a wall. You can't be looking for reasons Not To. You have to try a lot of maybes and rethink your issues. You have to grow to it.

BullSHIT. Maybe the last time you hooked up with your separated neighbour it was all sunshine and roses and fellatio. But that's hardly the point, is it? No one has to have exactly your boundaries to fall in love--people with different lines have been falling in love since we invented the romantic little notion.

Why are you distorting the scope of the discussion and damning anyone who doesn't want to sleep with neighbours or separated people to a dry and loveless life? I mean, do you really believe it's true, that people who won't take that particular risk don't desire love or committed relationships?

Fine, you think Allyson and msbelle and Jesse and I are stuffy and dead inside. I just can't follow your reasoning from this discussion to your conclusion.